Seriously Embarassed Range Rover
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For coolness and future value:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-FIAT-PANDA-SISLEY-4...
Oh and maintenance costs, mpg, car tax........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-FIAT-PANDA-SISLEY-4...
Oh and maintenance costs, mpg, car tax........
Missingbadly said:
For coolness and future value:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-FIAT-PANDA-SISLEY-4...
Oh and maintenance costs, mpg, car tax........
I do like the little Puch badge on the back, i'll have to get me one of those for my little 4x4http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-FIAT-PANDA-SISLEY-4...
Oh and maintenance costs, mpg, car tax........
Impasse said:
Hopefully there'll be a Range Rover nearby that can pull the car out.
Nah, not up to the job so we had to commission "Sandringham Sidney" a 6x6 3.5 litre V8 made by Hotspur Cars of Sandringham and full six wheel drive.
On a previous occasion with one of the other Pandas, I drove into a snow drift and was completely stuck. Bit too enthusiastic with Sidney and the result was the whole tow bar complete with bumper and box section which was spot welded to the rear floor, came away from the poor little Panda, leaving a few ripped trailer socket wires dangling......
This is great, I've seen this kinda thing before. Lightweight cars have serious advantage off road. Checkout this little 600kg crawler, http://youtu.be/J1gAoNhee64 and this lightweight bike and what it can do http://youtu.be/USHGxDp10D0.
I'm working on a new 4x4 buggy and I'm doing my best to keep weight low for this very reason. Everyone just wants diesels in their 4x4s, I'm going for a sporty little 2.0l engine and keeping the weight as low as I can.
I'm working on a new 4x4 buggy and I'm doing my best to keep weight low for this very reason. Everyone just wants diesels in their 4x4s, I'm going for a sporty little 2.0l engine and keeping the weight as low as I can.
Vanin said:
Nah, not up to the job so we had to commission "Sandringham Sidney" a 6x6 3.5 litre V8 made by Hotspur Cars of Sandringham and full six wheel drive.
On a previous occasion with one of the other Pandas, I drove into a snow drift and was completely stuck. Bit too enthusiastic with Sidney and the result was the whole tow bar complete with bumper and box section which was spot welded to the rear floor, came away from the poor little Panda, leaving a few ripped trailer socket wires dangling......
That looks pretty cool, can you post a picture (or explanation) of the rear transmission arrangement?On a previous occasion with one of the other Pandas, I drove into a snow drift and was completely stuck. Bit too enthusiastic with Sidney and the result was the whole tow bar complete with bumper and box section which was spot welded to the rear floor, came away from the poor little Panda, leaving a few ripped trailer socket wires dangling......
Leaving the poor little things parked up on grass like that. TheAllSeeingPie said:
All L322 & L405's FFRRs have a locking centre diff and the superchargeds had an infinitely variable electronically controlled rear diff, and most Vogue SEs & westminsters would have had it too I think. It's generally the sports that rely on TC only.
The new RR has a £450 option of electronic locking rear diff. I had a shot of this and it was a lot less busy than my RR with traction control going up slippy slopes. Most of it is to do with tyres and momentum, but agree the RR is a heavy old beast and if you lose momentum in the greasy stuff that can be that. At 1/2 ton lighter, the new RR should improve here too. Light car and big tyres will always be near the front I guess, but carry less gin.Martin4x4 said:
That looks pretty cool, can you post a picture (or explanation) of the rear transmission arrangement?
It is standard Stage I V8 with de tuned engine driving the Mk 1 Range Rover box with high and low, Fairey overdrive on back of box so 16 forward speeds. Air locking central diff to mid axle via a single prop shaft which then takes the drive through the axle and out of the rear casing to a short prop shaft to a standard rear axle. No diff locks on any axle though.I bought the newer style panda 4x4 on a whim 5 years ago when the big snow hit and ended up keeping it as a winter daily.
Unbeatable in the snow leaves big/wrong tyre 4x4's floundering and I've had some great adventures in it down the west coast Irish cliffs.
Would love a spin in a mk1….
Unbeatable in the snow leaves big/wrong tyre 4x4's floundering and I've had some great adventures in it down the west coast Irish cliffs.
Would love a spin in a mk1….
skyrover said:
The problem with the panda is ground clearance and articulation.
Lift the panda and stick some suzuki axles under the thing and it would be pretty damn good
The problem with high ground clearance and articulation are steep side slopes where the low centre of gravity of the Panda helps.Lift the panda and stick some suzuki axles under the thing and it would be pretty damn good
The huge weight difference also helps in these wet grass conditions.
Pandas are usually able to straddle deep ruts as they are so narrow.
Ultimately it is horses for courses and there are an equal amount of scenarios where the big 4x4 will win, particularly wading deepish water and heavy load carrying and towing.
I could easily design a course here on the farm in the woods where only a Panda or a trials machine would make it. Tight turning circles, steep climbs, side slopes, narrow gaps and low branches (big ones!)
Someone else would design one where the Panda is stuck at the first obstacle (the river!)
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