Seriously Embarassed Range Rover
Discussion
Friend came round with 2010 Range Rover, took him down to a very moderate hill on some recently rained on grass.
Two and a half tons came to a halt just before the brow having selected every option on the dial. All season tyres, but it was the weight and clay soil which beat it.
Three quarters of a ton of sweet little Panda 4x4 however not only towed the RR over the hill but hardly left a mark
Two and a half tons came to a halt just before the brow having selected every option on the dial. All season tyres, but it was the weight and clay soil which beat it.
Three quarters of a ton of sweet little Panda 4x4 however not only towed the RR over the hill but hardly left a mark
The little Panda pulls well above its weight and in true Brit tradition I always support the underdog.
I know full well there are another set of conditions where the RR would win and I have a great respect for that vehicle.
I was just demonstrating to my London based friend that the RR is not invincible and that weight becomes a factor that overrules other effects such as choice of tyre or diff locks.
On sticky clay soils the tread of most off road tyres will fill up and not clear. These soils are the kind that when you walk across the ploughed land in your wellies in the right conditions they will end up weighing twice as much and leave you spending ages trying to clean the glue like substance off before you return to your nice clean car!
I am not sure what tyres he had on but I know they were all season.
The Panda has Michelin town and country which seem to clear a lot better than some of the more knobbly ones.
But the real point here is that the Panda never cut through to the clay as it was not heavy enough
I know full well there are another set of conditions where the RR would win and I have a great respect for that vehicle.
I was just demonstrating to my London based friend that the RR is not invincible and that weight becomes a factor that overrules other effects such as choice of tyre or diff locks.
On sticky clay soils the tread of most off road tyres will fill up and not clear. These soils are the kind that when you walk across the ploughed land in your wellies in the right conditions they will end up weighing twice as much and leave you spending ages trying to clean the glue like substance off before you return to your nice clean car!
I am not sure what tyres he had on but I know they were all season.
The Panda has Michelin town and country which seem to clear a lot better than some of the more knobbly ones.
But the real point here is that the Panda never cut through to the clay as it was not heavy enough
Wollemi said:
What tyres did the RR have on? Some RRs have very road oriented tyres that are no good at all off tarmac. With half decent tyres a RR can be very competent indeed.
So could a transit van !! But yes its all about the tyres !!Always funny when some chav in a expensive 4x4 fails to proceed
:I love it when you get to pull expensive machinery out. My disco with its primitive 4wd system, no electronic aids was pulling an L322 for over 1/2 mile of greenlanes the other week. So much fun to see the front of his truck covered in my spoils! Plus, the V8 sounded lovely under load!
TooMany2cvs said:
Martin4x4 said:
Are those track on the left his?
If so the problem was the driver, too heavy with his right foot.
Would the TC even allow that?If so the problem was the driver, too heavy with his right foot.
TC is a driver aid, not a miracle.
Crossflow Kid said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Martin4x4 said:
Are those track on the left his?
If so the problem was the driver, too heavy with his right foot.
Would the TC even allow that?If so the problem was the driver, too heavy with his right foot.
TC is a driver aid, not a miracle.
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