Temporary off-road insurance.

Temporary off-road insurance.

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wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Hello.

I'm thinking about taking my Discovery Sport on a Land Rover Experience organised day.

It's probably a bit lightweight for most here I know, but the trip is designed for factory spec smaller Landys like mine, Freelanders etc. I think it's more dirt tracks than fording rivers and the like. Designed for novices in standard cars. Nice day out in the Highlands, bring your own picnic etc.

The stipulation is that I have off-road insurance.

Can I get this for just a day or two?

Is it expensive?

Any particular feature I should need/look out for in a policy?

Any companies you'd care to recommend?

Is it the sort of thing normal policy companies can add on to my standard insurance?

Thanks.


bigblock

772 posts

198 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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This topic was discussed here previously, it might be worth contacting the OP to find out what he eventually did.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,073 posts

189 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Cheers

Artie Fufkin

226 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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I was the OP on the other thread. In the end I couldn't find anyone offering short term off road cover so I didn't go on the Land Rover outing. Insurers must have their reasons for not selling such a thing but I don't know what they are. I was also a little surprised that LR themselves don't offer it for the experience days, the person I spoke to said it gets asked for quite a lot.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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The phrase "off road" will scare off many insurers as it means you're operating outside the Road Traffic Act and other boring rules and regs.....resulting in all manner of potential silliness.
Don't JLR provide vehicles on their experience days any more?

LaserTam

2,108 posts

219 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
Don't JLR provide vehicles on their experience days any more?
Most of the time yes, but some LR Experience franchises are organising 'trek' days where you take your own vehicle. I am booked on one later in the year in Devon, so have been looking at this thread with interest. Ironically, there also seems to be some confusion whether the annual insurance policy that LR push does also include off road cover, which is crazy really - One of the top 4x4 brands offering a branded insurance policy (obviously run by some other insurance company) which doesn't cover you for the very thing that the brand is renowned for.

I have not yet enquired, but apparently Adrian Flux do offer single day off road cover.

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,073 posts

189 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Thanks for the replies. I'm with Flux for my other car.

It is for one of those Trek days run by the LR Experirnce.

You would think this they would offer cover. It mustn't be that hard to get or too expensive or no-one would go.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 5th April 2016
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I never understand what people want to be covered for off road insurance. Outside of Scotland, green lanes are roads. So normal insurance will cover you. But your insurance will also cover you for car parks, car boot sales and other things. So what is the actual risk you are wanting to be insured for?

If it's damage to your own vehicle, then you'd need some sort of competition style cover, same as a track day. But likely expensive or impossible to find.

If it's a competition then a permit from the MSA is required and insurance will be covered by this or the organising club. Any other insurance would be public liability which would be down to the land owner or event organiser.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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^^^ For once I agree. If the car is being drive genuinely "off road" in the legal sense then insurance is pretty much void anyway.
You're either on a public right of way and covered or you're on private land at which point normal rules go out the window which is why insurers won't go near the idea.

LaserTam

2,108 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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Dont disagree with either of the previous two posts, however, the LR Experience trek day T&Cs state that 'suitable insurance is required to drive on private land on a non-competitive organised event' or some such.
So yes its like track day cover, to cover any mishaps - what if I cock up and roll my car and its a write off, wouldn't mind being able claim my hard earned back from somewhere.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Well ok, define "suitable" in insurance terms?
"Off road" is a pretty open-ended phrase when it comes to the risk that you and the vehicle might be exposed to.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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LaserTam said:
Dont disagree with either of the previous two posts, however, the LR Experience trek day T&Cs state that 'suitable insurance is required to drive on private land on a non-competitive organised event' or some such.
So yes its like track day cover, to cover any mishaps - what if I cock up and roll my car and its a write off, wouldn't mind being able claim my hard earned back from somewhere.
Your regular insurance should cover you just fine.

For a non competitive event, it is no different to driving around the car park at say Goodwood. If you wrote your car off in there, then there might be a debate on if that is covered. But it would still be covered 3rd party and if it was stolen.

And it would be the land owner or event organisers responsibility to have public liability insurance.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
Your regular insurance should cover you just fine.
But what about the "what if I cock it up and roll the car" bit?
I find it a bit cheeky that JLR insist on "suitable insurance" but don't really give any hints.

KevinCorvetteC6

11,635 posts

280 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
But what about the "what if I cock it up and roll the car" bit?
I find it a bit cheeky that JLR insist on "suitable insurance" but don't really give any hints.
Has anybody asked JLR Experience for details of 'suitable insurance'?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
But what about the "what if I cock it up and roll the car" bit?
I find it a bit cheeky that JLR insist on "suitable insurance" but don't really give any hints.
I honestly don't know if you could get additional insurance for that. I'm sure LRE will get you to sign a waiver, removing them from any fault, blame or liability before you drive off.

Is it possible to get such cover for other recreational use?


Failing that, as it's a non competitive thing, I would think it would be the same as if you rolled a vehicle on your own property, i.e. on a farm or just a long driveway.

CMARainman

1 posts

62 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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I'm also looking at doing the L/R "Trec Day" in East Devon, and have fallen foul of the insurance requirement. My fully comp car insurance doesn't cover this. I've called them to check and quoted the L/R event description. I got a phone quote from Flux which, in any other situation, would not be too bad, but it adds over £150 (two drivers) to the cost of the day, and I find this makes the whole thing a no starter. I, too, would think that L/R themselves would offer cover for the day.