Decent A/T tyres
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Hey folks
So as thread is titled im looking for a good set of A/T tyres for my shogun, ive had plenty of little fast hot hatches but my SWB shogun is my first 4x4 and to be honest I dont know the first thing about them.
Usage is 99% road with the occasional blast up the local mud tracks for fun. Dont care about tyre noise but fuel consumption and wet grip matter to me. Looking at about £100 per corner on blackcircles which gets me pretty much anything bar BFGoodriches (which would be my 1st choice) at 245/70R16. Honestly dont know what to get, I love the white text look though, currently have a set of bald goodyear wranglers on the front and 'event' m+s on the back, want all 4 matching.
So as thread is titled im looking for a good set of A/T tyres for my shogun, ive had plenty of little fast hot hatches but my SWB shogun is my first 4x4 and to be honest I dont know the first thing about them.
Usage is 99% road with the occasional blast up the local mud tracks for fun. Dont care about tyre noise but fuel consumption and wet grip matter to me. Looking at about £100 per corner on blackcircles which gets me pretty much anything bar BFGoodriches (which would be my 1st choice) at 245/70R16. Honestly dont know what to get, I love the white text look though, currently have a set of bald goodyear wranglers on the front and 'event' m+s on the back, want all 4 matching.
caelite said:
Hey folks
So as thread is titled im looking for a good set of A/T tyres for my shogun, ive had plenty of little fast hot hatches but my SWB shogun is my first 4x4 and to be honest I dont know the first thing about them.
Usage is 99% road with the occasional blast up the local mud tracks for fun. Dont care about tyre noise but fuel consumption and wet grip matter to me. Looking at about £100 per corner on blackcircles which gets me pretty much anything bar BFGoodriches (which would be my 1st choice) at 245/70R16. Honestly dont know what to get, I love the white text look though, currently have a set of bald goodyear wranglers on the front and 'event' m+s on the back, want all 4 matching.
What sort of sizes are you looking at? Not all treads can be had in all sizes.So as thread is titled im looking for a good set of A/T tyres for my shogun, ive had plenty of little fast hot hatches but my SWB shogun is my first 4x4 and to be honest I dont know the first thing about them.
Usage is 99% road with the occasional blast up the local mud tracks for fun. Dont care about tyre noise but fuel consumption and wet grip matter to me. Looking at about £100 per corner on blackcircles which gets me pretty much anything bar BFGoodriches (which would be my 1st choice) at 245/70R16. Honestly dont know what to get, I love the white text look though, currently have a set of bald goodyear wranglers on the front and 'event' m+s on the back, want all 4 matching.
Also AT really depends on what you want from it and how biased it is for one use or another. Many AT's are hardly more than road tyres, but others can be far more aggressive.
Also, how are you defining "mud track"? Is it really muddy enough to warrant off road tyres?
I only say this, as personally I often find AT's to be somewhat of a compromise. Rubbish at most things, but a jack of all trades.
I would probably rank BFG AT's as some of the worst to run in the UK. Don't really work on road or in the wet and don't suit our off road conditions very well.
I admit their new tread pattern looks a lot better than the old one. But I'm still not convinced.
If you really are 99% on road, then you may just want to get some road biased tyres period.
If you want something with a little off road ability, the Continental ContiCrossContact™ AT is a good all round tyre in the UK, but more on road than off road.
http://www.continental-tyres.co.uk/car/tyres/4x4/s...
For wet weather or snow/ice you want a tyre with sipes in.
Not convinced differing AT patters will have any real world noticeable affect on mpg.
Used Yoko geolander a/t s with a work freelander and was well impressed in heavy snow, on road and on rough construction and gravel tracks. Also liked the grabber a/ts. Current employer runs bf only, not as good on the road. Personally I've got Nokian weatherproof m&s tyres on a car and falken 449s on a jeep. Light mud and snow has been fine on both
KevD28 said:
Used Yoko geolander a/t s with a work freelander and was well impressed in heavy snow, on road and on rough construction and gravel tracks. Also liked the grabber a/ts. Current employer runs bf only, not as good on the road. Personally I've got Nokian weatherproof m&s tyres on a car and falken 449s on a jeep. Light mud and snow has been fine on both
Might go with the yokos actually, blackcircles have them for cheap at the moment (£84 a corner)The only reason I was wanting the bfgs is because my dad is obsessed with them and he borrows my car a lot (and is thus paying a bit towards the tyres)
Edited by caelite on Wednesday 27th July 01:01
I went from Dunlop road biased ATs (OEM) to Cooper AT3 on my 100 series Landcruiser recently, largely due to wanting a sl different size.
275 60 18 to 275 65 18. So far so good with the coopers, better in the wet than the dunlops, no change in road noise, nothing challenging off road yet so can't comment.
Handling is better but I replaced lower front arms and droplinks at the same time so probably not linked.
Local indy (rural dorset) had only good things to say about the Yokos.
Fuel consumption has improved from 23 to 25mpg as well which I hadn't expected...
275 60 18 to 275 65 18. So far so good with the coopers, better in the wet than the dunlops, no change in road noise, nothing challenging off road yet so can't comment.
Handling is better but I replaced lower front arms and droplinks at the same time so probably not linked.
Local indy (rural dorset) had only good things to say about the Yokos.
Fuel consumption has improved from 23 to 25mpg as well which I hadn't expected...
Don't discount slightly cheaper options if budget is an issue.
Just speaking from experience - I've got Toyo Open Country AT+ tyres on the Disco II at the moment. Fitted for about £290 on all four corners (smaller rim size admittedly) and can't complain. Bear in mind these spend their lives on a working vehicle so have put up with some punishment.
They've been great for a mix of 70/30 on-road/off-road so far and have made it drive much better on wet/greasy roads. No more skidding and squealing round roundabouts - shame! They deal with mud and clay while towing a hefty trailer - yet to find out how good they are in the ice or snow.
Previous tyres before that were Cooper ATs - which were 'interesting' in the wet and noisy on anything other than mud but otherwise fairly decent. By the time I needed to replace them they had done a good few years of motoring and the rubber was rock-hard - hence the dodgy wet handling.
You won't go far wrong with BFGs or Goodyear Wranglers either (both more than capable for most green-lanes in the UK).
Just speaking from experience - I've got Toyo Open Country AT+ tyres on the Disco II at the moment. Fitted for about £290 on all four corners (smaller rim size admittedly) and can't complain. Bear in mind these spend their lives on a working vehicle so have put up with some punishment.
They've been great for a mix of 70/30 on-road/off-road so far and have made it drive much better on wet/greasy roads. No more skidding and squealing round roundabouts - shame! They deal with mud and clay while towing a hefty trailer - yet to find out how good they are in the ice or snow.
Previous tyres before that were Cooper ATs - which were 'interesting' in the wet and noisy on anything other than mud but otherwise fairly decent. By the time I needed to replace them they had done a good few years of motoring and the rubber was rock-hard - hence the dodgy wet handling.
You won't go far wrong with BFGs or Goodyear Wranglers either (both more than capable for most green-lanes in the UK).
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