"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

[andy97]

Agree, should be in MC only. Cars that have chassis from the the FC era but have bodywork or engines that were only available in the MC era should only race in the relevant, correct era series for that bodywork/ engine IMHO. Speak to the co-ordinator.

Edited by andy97 on Friday 16th October 09:28

[andy97]

What change in regulations?

[andy97]

shim said:

whilst I have absolutely no interest in changing anything as we loved last year, I think CSCC and the complaining busybodies will see it as an existing rule enforcement rather than a rule change, so there will be no change, just a clarification I guess so some Porsche can finish 8th instead of 10th meanwhile we will loose the fun we had last year with all the close competition.

I suspect that the rules will be clarified, not changed, so that it's even clearer that those people who have been bending the rules will have to comply.

[andy97]

S54 engined E36 M3s never were eligible because that model never existed in the range.

If they raced before then they should not have done. I wasn't expert enough to know when I was the co-or donator up to end of 2014, but plenty of people were BMW experts.

Cscc has very few rules. It's not unreasonable to expect competitors to comply with the few they do have.

Edited by andy97 on Thursday 26th November 22:53

[andy97]

Richair said:

I have a slightly OT question to put to you guys (Andy especially) but is related to the interpretation of the rules: what's the view on non-standard flush bonnet vents in relation to the silhouette rule? I was considering some venting for my 951 to maximise cooling, similar to these deutch nine vents: http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen...

Yes, no or a grey area?

Rich, I'm no longer the co-ordinator so it's not my call any more; you need to ask at the CSCC office, but in my opinion, they should be ok, but ask!

[andy97]

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PistonSquizz said:

Well it's now all rather up in the air. We've discovered our engine builders\tuners and chassis gurus 'Powerstation' have closed business.

Really not sure what to do now. Could be the end of our journey with the Impreza, which would be a real shame...

There must be a fair few Subaru specialists about, esp in the rally world in Wales. Just stop making excuses and get out there racing!

[andy97]

PistonSquizz said:

andy97 said:

There must be a fair few Subaru specialists about, esp in the rally world in Wales. Just stop making excuses and get out there racing!

It's in hand. ;-) Looks like we'll be up against your recently sold BMW M3 too...

Yes, Matt intends to race the M3 in MC.

[andy97]

Yes, a 3.0 litre

[andy97]

All requirements of the MSA Blue Book must be complied with. So yes it needs a full roll cage and plumbed in fire extinguisher. I guess it's not stated explicitly in the MC regs because all cars competing in MSA sanctioned race series have to comply with the BLue Book.

[andy97]

shim said:

andy97 said:

Yes, a 3.0 litre

did you ever race it Andy? Thought you were in a 968 or 944

No, I didn't race it, i intended too but it was too nice for me! I'm only used to scruffy cars like my 924S! And I sold the M3 to buy a scruffy Escort Mk2 rally car.

Edited by andy97 on Sunday 27th December 09:38

[andy97]

Here you go, as it just arrived from Ireland.

Club level Tarmac spec. Quite nicely built but, oddly, has a Vauxhall 1600cc 8v engine in it. Quaife Ford Type 9 gearbox, LSD, welded in cage, etc

Edited by andy97 on Sunday 27th December 13:07

[andy97]

No Millington, I'm afraid. Not this side of a lottery win, anyway! It's a cooking spec Nova GTE 8v engine with Weber 45s.

[andy97]

Because CSCC runs a series of races rather than championships I'm fairly sure there are no such things as results tables; tsl is the only open source of results I think

[andy97]

I see that the £33M winning lottery ticket was bought in Worcester; it must have been you and Karen!!!

Glad I didn't buy the Subaru now!

[andy97]

I see that the £33M winning lottery ticket was bought in Worcester; it must have been you and Karen!!!

[andy97]

Output Flange said:

Is it safe to assume that anything that can run in Future Classics can run in Modern Classics, given it's built before the 1999 cut-off?

That should be the case, and the reason why the regs were written to be "up to 1999" rather than being "from 1990-99". It's also why the classes were arranged with different capacity splits to Future Classics, eg MC has a class split of 1800-2500 and 2500-3200cc whilst FC has a 2000-3000 and 3000-? Class split, and this was designed so that older cars of, say, 2.2 or 2.5 litres could race somewhere and be competitive in a class, even if they were from the FC generation.

[andy97]

Can race in Future Classics. I am surprised that one hasn't appeared.

[andy97]

No issue with dry sump. Hope you enjoy it.

Just get your licence ASAP and get racing - CSCC tin tops is a good place to start. You will need a bigger fuel tank to last 40 mins but other than that should be good to go.

Edited by andy97 on Friday 8th April 06:25

[andy97]

The 2 litre Toyota Carina that I raced in Tin Tops had a 25 litre tank and managed 40 mins. The 1500cc Alfa had a standard Alfa 33 tank (30 litres?) and was fine and my current Porsche 924S has a 50 litre standard tank and if I brim it it will do about 1 hour 15.

So, I think a 1600 Ford Escort will probably do a 40 min race on 30 litres; maybe go for a 40 litre tank to be sure and enable you to race in some longer races later ( my memory is that the CSCC Spa races are an hour, but I might be wrong).

[andy97]

Richard, maybe you shouldlook to buy that Imprezza you pointed me at a few months ago? If it is still available. Atleast you would get out racing
!