"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series
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Well, what a great day we had! It was our very first race so it was all new to us. The car still needs some work as we were both not at all happy with the handling, pretty sure it's just a bad geo setup though so no big deal. I had an absolutely shocking start, I was actually on the brakes when the lights went out. We qualified 7th and finished 7th, although we had a drive through penalty which didn't help. It turned out we didn't even have a drive through, it was just a misunderstanding! I must admit, I was surprised at just how quick the e36s were, there's no way we could have lapped as quick as the white 3.0l e36. Having said that, our car is heavy, handles terribly, has awful brakes and the engine is completely standard. I think with a bit of work we could be pushing for 3rd, but without spending some serious cash I don't think we'll be winning any races.
Does anyone have any footage? We recorded the race, but I've not had a chance to upload it anywhere yet.
Does anyone have any footage? We recorded the race, but I've not had a chance to upload it anywhere yet.
Edited by e36er on Tuesday 22 October 14:02
I think that qualifying and finishing 7th in a car you reckon has no handling, no brakes and no grunt is excellent. I wish.
Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
I was there on Saturday as guest of Richard Hayes in the black Celica GT4 (number 8 I think). We took quite a few photos throughout the day, so if Andy97 would like a DVD of the pictures to use for publicity or any other purpose, please message me.
I would like to enter a round or two next year in my own car (I spoke to Hugo from CSCC briefly during lunch) but I have a couple of reservations about my car's eligibility. I also use the car for sprinting in the Toyota Sprint Series and as such it has a large rear wing that can be removed. The front bumper has been heavily modified for better aero and cooling, so that can be removed and replaced with standard with a little bit of extra effort. However, I have had to cut out the wheel arches and to make them much higher to fit 17" wheels instead of the standard 14".
Is this kind of body mod a complete failure point for entry? At this stage I am not overly concerned with scoring points or going for a win - but would like to take part in a race with other drivers at the same time. I recall seeing an "invitation" category which my car could fall under.
Andy
I would like to enter a round or two next year in my own car (I spoke to Hugo from CSCC briefly during lunch) but I have a couple of reservations about my car's eligibility. I also use the car for sprinting in the Toyota Sprint Series and as such it has a large rear wing that can be removed. The front bumper has been heavily modified for better aero and cooling, so that can be removed and replaced with standard with a little bit of extra effort. However, I have had to cut out the wheel arches and to make them much higher to fit 17" wheels instead of the standard 14".
Is this kind of body mod a complete failure point for entry? At this stage I am not overly concerned with scoring points or going for a win - but would like to take part in a race with other drivers at the same time. I recall seeing an "invitation" category which my car could fall under.
Andy
I think me and Steve, my co-pilot in the 14 Porsche 996 have only just come back down to earth. What a mega weekend. After spending the last couple of years in our trusty old 924 (nicknamed 'The Shed') we'd had great fun in the Future Classics (and I'd had the odd successful foray into BRSCC Porsche 924 Championship) and we decided it was time to move forward to a newer and faster car.
Enlisting the help of the guys at LodgeSports Racing they sourced a CatD 996 3.4 and started the build process. The plan was always to do just the last round this year to give us an idea of what we needed to do to get the car, and us, on the pace for 2014. The guys at LodgeSports got the car ready to race (but not finished in their eyes, lots of tidying up jobs to do) late on Thursday and drove overnight from Manchester to be at the track for Friday morning for testing. Testing involved mostly trying to sort a clutch problem which meant we could only do 3-4 laps before the clutch started to stick down. I managed about 8 laps with a working car in the final session and we retired to the hotel to wonder what on earth we had gotten ourselves into.
With race morning being a bit wet Ernie from Lodge took an educated punt at a wet setup, having never worked on a 911 race car before, and it was decided I'd only do 3-4 laps in qual before handing over to Steve to get as much track time as possible as he is less experienced. To qualify 5th overall and 3rd in class was an amazing effort and the car was a dream to drive, loads of traction and grip, night and day different to our last car in the wet which was relatively quick but a right handful. As much as we tried not to, thoughts began to turn from 'run it and get a steady race distance under our belts' to 'we might be able to snatch a class podium out of this'
Using the regs to our advantage I was aware that most of the cars in the top of the grid had 30sec 'win' penalties to take in the pitstop so my plan was to keep the leaders within 30seconds and see where we shook out. climbing to 3rd in my opening stint I was less than 10 seconds behind the leaders at our stop. Once all the stops had shuffled through we were, amazingly, leading overall. The 36 BMW was catching but was there going to be enough laps for him to make a move. It all came down to the last lap and after some great tussling they came out on top but for us to come away with a class win and an overall second on our first weekend in an untried car is more than we could have ever wished for. Even without 'win' penalties we still would have won the class and 3rd overall so the package looks promising for next season.
Massive thanks to all at LodgeSports, thanks to CSCC for putting on a great series, huge thanks to all the marshals who did a fantastic job with the flags and must have had a fairly miserable day in the weather we had and (having been in the same position myself) thanks to all the other competitors who were courteous and showed great vision and awareness when the lead group came by. I hope we didn't affect your races unduly.
There is an incar vid on youtube if anyone wants to see, and no sniggering at the fluffed gearchange on the run to the start... ;-D YouTube
Enlisting the help of the guys at LodgeSports Racing they sourced a CatD 996 3.4 and started the build process. The plan was always to do just the last round this year to give us an idea of what we needed to do to get the car, and us, on the pace for 2014. The guys at LodgeSports got the car ready to race (but not finished in their eyes, lots of tidying up jobs to do) late on Thursday and drove overnight from Manchester to be at the track for Friday morning for testing. Testing involved mostly trying to sort a clutch problem which meant we could only do 3-4 laps before the clutch started to stick down. I managed about 8 laps with a working car in the final session and we retired to the hotel to wonder what on earth we had gotten ourselves into.
With race morning being a bit wet Ernie from Lodge took an educated punt at a wet setup, having never worked on a 911 race car before, and it was decided I'd only do 3-4 laps in qual before handing over to Steve to get as much track time as possible as he is less experienced. To qualify 5th overall and 3rd in class was an amazing effort and the car was a dream to drive, loads of traction and grip, night and day different to our last car in the wet which was relatively quick but a right handful. As much as we tried not to, thoughts began to turn from 'run it and get a steady race distance under our belts' to 'we might be able to snatch a class podium out of this'
Using the regs to our advantage I was aware that most of the cars in the top of the grid had 30sec 'win' penalties to take in the pitstop so my plan was to keep the leaders within 30seconds and see where we shook out. climbing to 3rd in my opening stint I was less than 10 seconds behind the leaders at our stop. Once all the stops had shuffled through we were, amazingly, leading overall. The 36 BMW was catching but was there going to be enough laps for him to make a move. It all came down to the last lap and after some great tussling they came out on top but for us to come away with a class win and an overall second on our first weekend in an untried car is more than we could have ever wished for. Even without 'win' penalties we still would have won the class and 3rd overall so the package looks promising for next season.
Massive thanks to all at LodgeSports, thanks to CSCC for putting on a great series, huge thanks to all the marshals who did a fantastic job with the flags and must have had a fairly miserable day in the weather we had and (having been in the same position myself) thanks to all the other competitors who were courteous and showed great vision and awareness when the lead group came by. I hope we didn't affect your races unduly.
There is an incar vid on youtube if anyone wants to see, and no sniggering at the fluffed gearchange on the run to the start... ;-D YouTube
Was no. 2 Andy (celica gt4)
Well think I would have been a bit more up the front then usual with the rain giving me a bit more advantage with the 4wd coming out the corners, but yet again more suspension/ bearing troubles..
I think due to suspension troubles in previous races it had caused excess stress / wear on the front left wheel bearing. Resulted in the car heavily pulling on the left when breaking - once throwing me Off the track. Had to put to double check on it.
As most see I have to drive the car too and from events, luckily it held up for the trip back to london.
I'll be back next year hopefully with all issues resolved and hopefully a bitt lighter than the current 1400kg
It would be nice to see andycaca gt4 st165 on the track with us even as a invitation - maybe without the big wing
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Well think I would have been a bit more up the front then usual with the rain giving me a bit more advantage with the 4wd coming out the corners, but yet again more suspension/ bearing troubles..
I think due to suspension troubles in previous races it had caused excess stress / wear on the front left wheel bearing. Resulted in the car heavily pulling on the left when breaking - once throwing me Off the track. Had to put to double check on it.
As most see I have to drive the car too and from events, luckily it held up for the trip back to london.
I'll be back next year hopefully with all issues resolved and hopefully a bitt lighter than the current 1400kg
It would be nice to see andycaca gt4 st165 on the track with us even as a invitation - maybe without the big wing
.Hi Guys,
I race the 993 RSR in the series and have some Go Pro Video from last weekend and some other races in the series. I cant really figure out how to upload them to youtube though. I ve transfered the video from the SD Card to my computer using windows live photo gallery. This seems to have divided the 40mins appx of video into three seperate files each of 3.7gb, why is this, and how did you guys upload them here and to youtube, and make the 3 appear as one? If I can figure it out I will upload them. And re big wings, my opinion is that they actually slow a car down and for our type of series we would be faster without them, I should know as I have one !
Some great races during the year, competitive all round and well organised by the CSCC.
Dave
I race the 993 RSR in the series and have some Go Pro Video from last weekend and some other races in the series. I cant really figure out how to upload them to youtube though. I ve transfered the video from the SD Card to my computer using windows live photo gallery. This seems to have divided the 40mins appx of video into three seperate files each of 3.7gb, why is this, and how did you guys upload them here and to youtube, and make the 3 appear as one? If I can figure it out I will upload them. And re big wings, my opinion is that they actually slow a car down and for our type of series we would be faster without them, I should know as I have one !
Some great races during the year, competitive all round and well organised by the CSCC.
Dave
Edited by majordad on Thursday 24th October 00:55
majordad said:
I race the 993 RSR in the series and have some Go Pro Video from last weekend and some other races in the series. I cant really figure out how to upload them to youtube though. I ve transfered the video from the SD Card to my computer using windows live photo gallery. This seems to have divided the 40mins appx of video into three seperate files each of 3.7gb, why is this, and how did you guys upload them here and to youtube, and make the 3 appear as one?
Don't use an application to transfer them - just put the SD card in the card reader, open it with (file) Explorer and copy the files to your hard disk.I know that YouTube is capable of making a bad job of raw (AVI?) files from the GoPro and it seems to do better if you transcode them first - but obviously you need software to do that.
Chris.
i have used race render to great effect with the raw footage from my gopro, certainly very easy to edit video for motorsport use.
its only £25 too! amazing value for money
example vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmzpHG3WLmI
http://racerender.com/RR2/Features.html
its only £25 too! amazing value for money
example vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmzpHG3WLmI
http://racerender.com/RR2/Features.html
andycaca said:
I was there on Saturday as guest of Richard Hayes in the black Celica GT4 (number 8 I think). We took quite a few photos throughout the day, so if Andy97 would like a DVD of the pictures to use for publicity or any other purpose, please message me.
I would like to enter a round or two next year in my own car (I spoke to Hugo from CSCC briefly during lunch) but I have a couple of reservations about my car's eligibility. I also use the car for sprinting in the Toyota Sprint Series and as such it has a large rear wing that can be removed. The front bumper has been heavily modified for better aero and cooling, so that can be removed and replaced with standard with a little bit of extra effort. However, I have had to cut out the wheel arches and to make them much higher to fit 17" wheels instead of the standard 14".
Is this kind of body mod a complete failure point for entry? At this stage I am not overly concerned with scoring points or going for a win - but would like to take part in a race with other drivers at the same time. I recall seeing an "invitation" category which my car could fall under.
Andy
The offer of the DVD is excellent, many thanks. My suggestion is to post it to the CSCC office.I would like to enter a round or two next year in my own car (I spoke to Hugo from CSCC briefly during lunch) but I have a couple of reservations about my car's eligibility. I also use the car for sprinting in the Toyota Sprint Series and as such it has a large rear wing that can be removed. The front bumper has been heavily modified for better aero and cooling, so that can be removed and replaced with standard with a little bit of extra effort. However, I have had to cut out the wheel arches and to make them much higher to fit 17" wheels instead of the standard 14".
Is this kind of body mod a complete failure point for entry? At this stage I am not overly concerned with scoring points or going for a win - but would like to take part in a race with other drivers at the same time. I recall seeing an "invitation" category which my car could fall under.
Andy
As for eligibility, I have asked the question of the Office about the wheel arches - it may not be allowed but we'll see what the answer is.
andy97 said:
The offer of the DVD is excellent, many thanks. My suggestion is to post it to the CSCC office.
As for eligibility, I have asked the question of the Office about the wheel arches - it may not be allowed but we'll see what the answer is.
thanks for the reply. i shall burn off a DVD and send it to the office sometime this week As for eligibility, I have asked the question of the Office about the wheel arches - it may not be allowed but we'll see what the answer is.
Andy, I'm sorry but the answer on the wheel arches is no, I'm afraid.
Quite simply the "standard silhouette" also means that wheel arches are limited to the same size aperture as standard - the reason for this is deliberate; wheels and tyres are therefore limited in size to those that can fit in a standard wheel arch, and that means that its difficult to increase brake size too much and the amount of rubber that can fit. This in turn is a very, very simplistic way of discouraging a power arms race as the power available has to be controlled through standard(ish) sized wheels. Sorry
Quite simply the "standard silhouette" also means that wheel arches are limited to the same size aperture as standard - the reason for this is deliberate; wheels and tyres are therefore limited in size to those that can fit in a standard wheel arch, and that means that its difficult to increase brake size too much and the amount of rubber that can fit. This in turn is a very, very simplistic way of discouraging a power arms race as the power available has to be controlled through standard(ish) sized wheels. Sorry
andy97 said:
I think that qualifying and finishing 7th in a car you reckon has no handling, no brakes and no grunt is excellent. I wish.
Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Great write up Andy - you sound like you really enjoyed it.Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Keep us posted when next years calendar comes out - can't wait for Spa.
N
Keep us posted when next years calendar comes out - can't wait for Spa.Many thanks, I did really enjoy it, one of my most enjoyable races ever. I know that I don't have much talent, and I know that if I finished 27th out of 34 in a game of golf I'd be hacked off, but racing is so different. I just love taking part. I'd love to be on the podium one day but I realised a long time ago that isn't going to happen, but I reallydoubt that the guys at the front enjoy themselves more than me! And seeing as I race a cheap old 924S I'd almost guarantee that my smiles per GB pound compared to theirs would put me on Pole in the enjoyment race! LOL.
bromers2 said:
andy97 said:
I think that qualifying and finishing 7th in a car you reckon has no handling, no brakes and no grunt is excellent. I wish.
Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Great write up Andy - you sound like you really enjoyed it.Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Keep us posted when next years calendar comes out - can't wait for Spa.
N
Keep us posted when next years calendar comes out - can't wait for Spa.Many thanks, I did really enjoy it, one of my most enjoyable races ever. I know that I don't have much talent, and I know that if I finished 27th out of 34 in a game of golf I'd be hacked off, but racing is so different. I just love taking part. I'd love to be on the podium one day but I realised a long time ago that isn't going to happen, but I reallydoubt that the guys at the front enjoy themselves more than me! And seeing as I race a cheap old 924S I'd almost guarantee that my smiles per GB pound compared to theirs would put me on Pole! LOL.
bromers2 said:
andy97 said:
I think that qualifying and finishing 7th in a car you reckon has no handling, no brakes and no grunt is excellent. I wish.
Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Great write up Andy - you sound like you really enjoyed it.Here's my race report. I had the most awesome time to finish.....27th, in a car that does handle (but definitely has no grunt!)
We were out at Snetterton last Saturday for the CSCC's last race of the season. After the disappointment of the startline accident at Oulton (not me) I was keen that this was going to be a successful meeting for everyone.
32 cars on the grid was very healthy. We were joined by 7 Jaguars from the JEC series - their own championship was over for the year so they had decided to join us for a 40 min race for a change. Other older Jags were in the Future Classics race.
The weather was AWFUL - heavy rain over night meant a soaking track and persistent drizzle throughout the day meant that it barely dried. Great. Not. I am normally nervous about these sorts of conditions but surprisingly I was OK. Maybe because there is reasonable run off at Snetterton and maybe because I knew I'd be near the back so could take it steady!
Practice was a challenge - we were the first cars on track and it was immensely slippery. I kept it on the island for 29th on the grid! Times were immaterial in the conditions but plenty of cars spun.
The race was hilarious fun - still a soaking track aided by a little oil down and cue lots of fishtailing, opposite lock and sideways moments out of corners and going straight on on the way in to the hairpin despite the wheels pointing at 30 degrees. Amazingly no one hit me, I didn't hit anyone else, I didn't spin but I did have an awesome battle with a big Jag XJ40 throughout my 20 min stint. He was faster down the straights but I was far better under brakes and through the twisty bits so I could get ahead. Great fun. The BMWs and Porsche 911s in the top class were just amazing in the conditions and it was a privelidge to be in the same race as them.
I handed over for the usual (slow) pit stop and my co-driver continued on to the finish, also really enjoying himself. Afterwards we were both like school kids, grinning with tales of tail out slippery heroics Lol!
The car handled very well really and felt very controllable. The lack of power did not seem so much of a handicap this time and I'm sure in the dry that the Jag would have been away in the distance. Again, lap times are a bit irrelevant really but I had the same race pace as a 3.4 litre Ferrari Mondial which was nice, and was quicker than 4 other cars. The car wasn't embarrassed in the corners though and even the quicker cars only just seemed to creep away, until the straight. Pity we weren't on the twistier 300 circuit. The car needs a bit more grunt but I am already looking forward to next year.
Keep us posted when next years calendar comes out - can't wait for Spa.
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