"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

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shim

2,050 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th March 2014
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Me+1 have bought the EMc 325i and are looking maybe at racing MC mid season onwards.

Just thinking about aero rules (andy97) does your earlier post (996 running 996gt3 spoiler) mean a e36 325i can run an e36 m3 spoiler even though they are in different classes due to different engine sizes.

That's not saying the spoiler will make the car go any faster smile

Another question is if you want two races in CSCC what could we run in the same day or weekend (ie are there an invitational races)

andy97

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4,703 posts

222 months

Tuesday 11th March 2014
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shim said:
Me+1 have bought the EMc 325i and are looking maybe at racing MC mid season onwards.

Just thinking about aero rules (andy97) does your earlier post (996 running 996gt3 spoiler) mean a e36 325i can run an e36 m3 spoiler even though they are in different classes due to different engine sizes.

That's not saying the spoiler will make the car go any faster smile

Another question is if you want two races in CSCC what could we run in the same day or weekend (ie are there an invitational races)
The ex EMC 325 is a very good car - there's just one thing I don't like about it, and that's the fact its in the same class as me!

Yes you can put an E36 M3 spoiler on your E36 325 if you really want to, but you couldn't put an E36 M3 spoiler on an E46.

If you want to do a second race then CSCC sometimes do a 15 or 20 min Sports Vs Saloon Allcomers race in which anyone can race and which the entry fee is usually about £100-125 if you have already raced that day in another race. I think we have 4 of these races this year but can't remember at which meetings.

I think we will also have an Allcomers race at the Mallory meeting on July 2oth (IIRC) but there won't be the normal series races. If you have a car that is eligible for more than one series (eg an Mazda MX5 Mk1 is eligible for Future Classics and Modern Classics, ditto a Porsche 944, ditto an E30 BMW; and Renault Clio or Honda Integra are eligible for Tin Tops and/or Modern Classics etc) you can enter both races with a bit of a discount on one of the entry fees. Unfortunately I don't think that the E36 325 is eligible for FC or TT so you can only race in MC, unless we do a Sports Vs Saloon race.

bromers2

1,867 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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shim said:
Me+1 have bought the EMc 325i and are looking maybe at racing MC mid season onwards.

Just thinking about aero rules (andy97) does your earlier post (996 running 996gt3 spoiler) mean a e36 325i can run an e36 m3 spoiler even though they are in different classes due to different engine sizes.

That's not saying the spoiler will make the car go any faster smile

Another question is if you want two races in CSCC what could we run in the same day or weekend (ie are there an invitational races)
What races are you doing ?

Rick

shim

2,050 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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bromers2 said:
What races are you doing ?

Rick
Plan is to do Donny- Oulton - Snett at the end of the season, maybe start at Coombe.

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

194 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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shim said:
Plan is to do Donny- Oulton - Snett at the end of the season, maybe start at Coombe.
Start earlier! See you next week.

shim

2,050 posts

208 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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blackiepaul said:
shim said:
Plan is to do Donny- Oulton - Snett at the end of the season, maybe start at Coombe.
Start earlier! See you next week.
Don't you start.......gonna take till June before I pluck up courage to tell Mrs Shim

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Does the CSCC enforce a pit lane speed limit, and if so what is it?

andy97

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4,703 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Yes there is a pit lane speed limit and it is enforced by observers wit) speed guns. Transgressors get a drive through penalty.

I can't remember what the speed limit is and it may differ depending on the circuit.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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So not having a speedo might be a problem then!

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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andy97 said:
Yes there is a pit lane speed limit and it is enforced by observers wit) speed guns. Transgressors get a drive through penalty.

I can't remember what the speed limit is and it may differ depending on the circuit.
60km / 37 mph from memory

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

194 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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Hi All, Has anyone got the timing sheet for the 2013 qualifying or races for Oulton 2013 - I know there was not as much racing as hoped but some timings would be very useful - either future or modern classics.

NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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Here you go, just click on the pdf icons down the right of the list;
http://tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=2013&am...

andy97

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4,703 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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27 cars entered so far for the first Modern Classics race of the season at Snetterton on 13 April and we haven't even reached the closing date yet. Awesome.

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

194 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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NJH said:
Here you go, just click on the pdf icons down the right of the list;
http://tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=2013&am...
Hi,

Thank you for this more than appreciated, I did try and find it but with no success.

Paul....

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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andy97 said:
27 cars entered so far for the first Modern Classics race of the season at Snetterton on 13 April and we haven't even reached the closing date yet. Awesome.
Great to see that the CSCC Modern Classics and the 750MC Roadsport are doing so well - superb racing in both series and I really enjoyed the mixed grid. It makes for great throughout the grid and it's no stop action. I can only recommend it smile


MB 1

525 posts

185 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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I'm booked up for Snet and looking forward to it.

Just a question on tyres.. I've always used A048 but this year the other series I run in uses R888 so I've got a set of these now. Are they suitable for a 40 minute race?

Also, is it allowed for someone to help you with belts when you pit?

majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Belts, of course it's allowed to get help, in fact I'd go as far as saying it's encouraged, it's half the fun.
And I think the Yokos are allowed, see here

https://www.google.ie/search?q=msa+tyre+list+2014&...redfacefficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gws_rd=cr&ei=Kj44U_yTE_Po7Aaf64CQCQ


andy97

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4,703 posts

222 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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MB 1 said:
I'm booked up for Snet and looking forward to it.

Just a question on tyres.. I've always used A048 but this year the other series I run in uses R888 so I've got a set of these now. Are they suitable for a 40 minute race?

Also, is it allowed for someone to help you with belts when you pit?
I have used both A048s and Toyo r888 in CSCC 40 in races on both a 1000Kg(ish) FWD saloon and a 1000Kg (ish) RWD Coupe both are fine.

If you can have help with the belts it will be easier & quicker for you. If you don't have your own help, ask around the paddock for help. People will usually be happy to help.

Boxster66

61 posts

124 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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I'd favour A048 over 888,s......i have a couple f questions...Do we know who gets garages ahead of Snetterton? Also can we stop anywhere in the pit lane for our stops?

andy97

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4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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Boxster66 said:
I'd favour A048 over 888,s......i have a couple f questions...Do we know who gets garages ahead of Snetterton? Also can we stop anywhere in the pit lane for our stops?
Don't know yet who gets garages. The series with this pleasure will be in the Finals when issued. Each series gets a turn.

Yes, you can stop anywhere in the pit lane (clearly sensible to co-ordinate with others around you), Unless you have a success penalty (not applicable for Snett) where there is a specific box.