"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

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graemel

7,017 posts

216 months

Monday 26th November 2012
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Carnage said:
andy97 said:
As for the classes, they will be:

Upto 1600cc
1601-1800
1801-2500
2501-3200
3200+
4WD Turbo cars

Edited by andy97 on Monday 12th November 17:54
Cheers Andy.
Silly question Andy. Would the quoted engine size be the same for the Future Classics series. What about a fixed time penalty for the guy who does the race as a single driver whilst sat in the car. Or would this be too difficult to police.

andy97

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4,691 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Not sure I understand the question! The class regs have been split deliberately to hopefully attract slightly different cars in MC to FC and it maybe that a Pre 1990 2499cc car will be better off in MC than FC as it would be in the 2 litre to 3 litre Class in FC. Hope that makes sense.

There's nothing to stop an FC car competing MC as well in the appropriate class.

The single driver staying in the car at pit stops has been asked before and the club have always said no, as it adds timing/ monitoring complications.

graemel

7,017 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Thanks Andy. I guess the class structure is also designed to attract the 3.2 911 into modern classics. Surely if you have already got the were with all to police the 30 second class winning penalties and the 1 minute penalty for two cars in one race. Surely it would not be to difficult to police the single driver lone pit stop. Or maybe there are too many lone drivers racing

andy97

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Wednesday 28th November 2012
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graemel said:
Thanks Andy. I guess the class structure is also designed to attract the 3.2 911 into modern classics. Surely if you have already got the were with all to police the 30 second class winning penalties and the 1 minute penalty for two cars in one race. Surely it would not be to difficult to police the single driver lone pit stop. Or maybe there are too many lone drivers racing
And the Boxsters and 1.8 VAG Turbo cars etc, whilst still hopefully attracting 3 litre cars.

The "success penalty" cars tend to come in one at a time and there are not that many of them. The timing can be done in one place. Lone drivers can stop anywhere up the pit lane and we don't know how many there will be.

andy97

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Monday 3rd December 2012
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CSCC Provisional dates for 2013 (As at 22nd November 2012) are:

January10th/13th - Autosport Show
February 22nd/24th - Race Retro Show

March 26th Snetterton – Test Day

April 13th/14th - Snetterton (300/200)
May 6th Brands - Hatch (Indy)
June 2nd - Anglesey (Coastal)
June 14th/15th/16th - Spa Franchorchamps
June 29th/30th - Cadwell Park (Full)
July 13th/14th - Castle Combe
August 3rd/4th - Pembrey
August 24th/25th - Donington Park (National)
September 21st - Oulton Park (International)
October 19th - Snetterton (200)

Where there are 2 day meetings it has still to be decided which series will run on which day

STOP PRESS - ALL Membership, Registrationa and Entry Fees held at 2012 leval for 2013

Edited by andy97 on Monday 3rd December 11:34

e46m3c

874 posts

154 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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What are the entry fees? And remind me, is it 30 min qualy, then 40 min race with manditory drive change?

Any weekend where there is more than 1 race on the same day?

andy97

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Tuesday 4th December 2012
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e46m3c said:
What are the entry fees? And remind me, is it 30 min qualy, then 40 min race with manditory drive change?

Any weekend where there is more than 1 race on the same day?
Club Membership is £39 per driver and series registration is £99 per car. Entry fees vary from £295 at Anglesey to £325 at Snetterton and £365 at Oulton Park, Brands Hatch & Donington Park. Fees will be the same in 2013 as they were in 2012.

30 mins qualifying (I think we say a minimum of 25 mins, in fact, but the aim is for 30 at most places and this will always be in the timetable so that its clear) and a 40 min race with a mandatory pit stop (single drivers are allowed but they must still stop and simulate a driver change by getting out of the car and then back in).

Qualification and races are all on the same day. Some cars, if they are eligible, can race in more than one series so for example a Porsche 944 can race in both "Future Classics" and "Modern Classics" races.

I think the plan is to possibly have a double header meeting at Pembrey in 2013 so that all series will get the opportunity to race on both days but this has still to be confirmed.

At some meetings we do have a 15 or 20 min Sports Vs Saloons single driver sprint race to close the day out if there is time in the timetable and all entrants on the day can race in this as well, but this doesn't happen at every meeting, it depends on what the planned content is. When this race is planned the entrance fee is usually very attractive to those that have already raced. Hope that helps.

djroadboy

1,173 posts

235 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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If you enter more than one series in the same weekend is there a discount in entry fees for the second race?

Dan

andy97

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Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I'll check and get back to you.

Nurburgsingh

5,105 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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andy97 said:
CSCC Provisional dates for 2013 (As at 22nd November 2012) are:

January10th/13th - Autosport Show
February 22nd/24th - Race Retro Show

March 26th Snetterton – Test Day

April 13th/14th - Snetterton (300/200)
May 6th Brands - Hatch (Indy)
June 2nd - Anglesey (Coastal)
June 14th/15th/16th - Spa Franchorchamps
June 29th/30th - Cadwell Park (Full)
July 13th/14th - Castle Combe
August 3rd/4th - Pembrey
August 24th/25th - Donington Park (National)
September 21st - Oulton Park (International)
October 19th - Snetterton (200)

Where there are 2 day meetings it has still to be decided which series will run on which day

STOP PRESS - ALL Membership, Registrationa and Entry Fees held at 2012 leval for 2013

Edited by andy97 on Monday 3rd December 11:34
So that means that they are not attending the Eifelrennen again this year?


...I'm oot!

andy97

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Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I think that the Eifelrennen clashes with Spa or is very close to it, hence the club had to make a decision and the Spa races are "ours" so take precedence. That said, if you contact the club office they may help facilitate an invite to the Eifelrennen if you are doing Spa as well.

andy97

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Wednesday 5th December 2012
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djroadboy said:
If you enter more than one series in the same weekend is there a discount in entry fees for the second race?

Dan
Dan

The answer is yes we will give a £25 discount on the extra race(s) as long as the races that you are entering in the weekend are the CSCC races. (ie if you are racing in a guest series such as Bernie's Historic V8 Challenge then the discount doesn't apply). The days are irrelevant, it just at the same meeting.

Also you cannot do a Saloon v Sports car race with the discount on the already really cheap price we offer in a different car or if the car has a different driver to one that has competed already. Hope that's clear!

Nurburgsingh

5,105 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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They are on the same weekend Andy, which is kind of odd given the status of the two events...

The question is could you do both events??
The ultimate race weekend... !!!!

I'll give Hugo-a-go-go a call and ae what he says!

andy97

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Saturday 9th February 2013
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Registrations are coming in now and I'm looking forward to the new season. We have registrations from cars as varied as VW Golf and Audi TT to Ferrari 355 and BMW 130 at the moment. Any more for any more?

I'm still hoping to race myself, possibly in a Ginetta, but work is getting in the way of me actually finding a car at the moment!

Edited by andy97 on Saturday 9th February 13:32

Cheburator mk2

2,973 posts

198 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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andy97 said:
Registrations are coming in now and I'm looking forward to the new season. We have registrations from cars as varied as VW Golf and Audi TT to Ferrari 355 and BMW 130 at the moment. Any more for any more?

I'm still hoping to race myself, possibly in a Ginetta, but work is getting in the way of me actually finding a car at the moment!

Edited by andy97 on Saturday 9th February 13:32
Will be back in the Porsche 928 or an E46 M3 shared with my brother... Just wanting to make sure cars are ready in time...

P.S. Still think forcing the single drivers to come out of the car during pitstops discourages Hans use if the driver has no helpers to hand...

snowen250

1,090 posts

182 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Andy,

i'm looking forward to the Brands meet on the 6th of May, but can you tell me what series will be running on this day? I'm a bit disappointed its not a two day meeting, but oh well!

Simon

Edit: Just looked myself and all of them! Superb!

andy97

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Tuesday 12th February 2013
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Will be back in the Porsche 928 or an E46 M3 shared with my brother... Just wanting to make sure cars are ready in time...

P.S. Still think forcing the single drivers to come out of the car during pitstops discourages Hans use if the driver has no helpers to hand...
Cherub - there are plenty of helpers around, just got to ask them.

woof

8,456 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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I've co entered a Porsche Boxster for this series.
Totally see it as something to have fun with - 2 driver will be a good laugh as well.



andy97

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4,691 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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The Boxster should do well in its class, especially as the class limit is 3.2 litres.

Come to think of it a 2.5 litre one would be a good car for the 1800 to 2500cc class too.

woof

8,456 posts

276 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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andy97 said:
The Boxster should do well in its class, especially as the class limit is 3.2 litres.

Come to think of it a 2.5 litre one would be a good car for the 1800 to 2500cc class too.
Cheers Andy - all registered. And looking forward to it.
What's the tyre of choice for most people ?