"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

[PistonSquizz]

Looking less and less likely we can make Snett.

[Hazee]

trying to think of where I can put a dry fuel sampling coupling




would it work by simply adding a dry break fuel coupling to the spare port I the FPR or need to be T in the return pipe ??

or are the pressures to high in these places ??

[PistonSquizz]

We've missed the cut for Snetterton and at this rate, Silverstone too. Really gutted. The issue concerns mapping of our ECU. Long story, with no definite conclusion as yet.

Good luck everyone. Hope the weather is kind and you all enjoy good close racing. We'll be looking out for race reports, videos, etc.

[Output Flange]

That's a shame*. What's the long version of the issue? Maybe someone here can help?

• You'd have been faster than me, so a bit less of a shame

[PistonSquizz]

Output Flange said:

That's a shame*. What's the long version of the issue? Maybe someone here can help?

• You'd have been faster than me, so a bit less of a shame

Touche' Monsieur Flange.

Our original ECU mappers are now out of business. Unfortunately, they used a software license or hardware dongle to do the mapping which means our ECU is effectively locked. It needs a software patch from the ECU supplier to unlock it for someone else to work on it. Unfortunately, it appears that the ECU supplier can prove to be elusive. Had we known all this before, it may have swayed us to purchasing a different system. However, it's an amazing system at a reasonable price. Right now, it's just an effective door stop.

Suffice to say lots of things are up in the air at the moment. We're looking at options.

(No names, no pack-drill. I don't want to hamper our chances of getting this resolved ASAP).

[Output Flange]

Ah, that's a bugger. Fingers crossed you get something sorted soon.

[Hazee]

Care to mention the ecu your using , i know of a fair few mappers who may specialise

[TroubledSoul]

What is it? Ecutek? Alcatek?

[PistonSquizz]

Alcatek

(And thanks for the kind offers of support)

Edited to add:
I've spoken to Kev at ScoobyClinic who also do Alcatek mapping, but they have the same issue regards getting in contact with "Mr.Alcatek" (Although chances may be better than some). I'd rather not swap tuners and then have issues about reliability/warranty, etc.

Got to got to the 'States on business for a couple of weeks soon, which will not help me get this sorted.

Edited by PistonSquizz on Thursday 31st March 08:05

[Hazee]

Ah cant be much help people I know mostly deal with Motec, Link, ecumaster, hydra nemesis and Aem


I remember speaking to a Scooby owner about alcatek and he mentioned andy forrest . http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/4436.html

ive never had dealing with him

[Hubnut77]

Hi, this is my first real post so please excuse the mistakes. Myself and my dad have just brought this, we see it on ebay and had a cheeky last minute bid and guess what we won it. That took some explaining that to the wife.

We are aiming to get out by the end of the year but I have one question. It has a dry sump and I was wondering if this is allowed in the Tin Tops 40 minute series?

Here is a quick list of the spec.

Originally built to race in BRSCC Ford Saloon Championship eligible to race in CTCC BOSS or other tin top championship.
Body: Seam welded floor with weld in custom cage. Plastic windows. Alloy 4 gallon fuel tank with enclosure. GRP bonnet and tail gate, Push button fire extinguisher.
Brakes: Front Wilwood 4 pots with alloy bells and large vented discs, Rear 2 pot Wilwood drilled discs. Braded brake lines throughout. Floor mounted bias bar pedal with AP racing master cylinders.
Suspension: Mainly poly bushed, adjustable Leader coil over front struts, Leader adjustable rear dampers & adjustable rear tie. OZ Superleggera wheels with Toyo 888 tyres.
Dry Sump Engine 1600cc CVH. Fresh built short engine, including reground crank, new mains & big end bearings, new cast pistons with valve cut outs, rebored cross hatch honed, block faced, Ferrday big value head, Ferrday custom made wasted stem big inlet valves, ported head, bronze guides, kent duplex valve springs, Ferrday solid followers, new Kent 300° cam, adjustable cam pulley, twin dellorto 40s (3 progression hole not 5 hole Alfa road carbs) 4 into 2 into 1 manifold, twin silencer system, Mega jolt 3d map ECU, Facet gold fuel pump and filter king pressure regulator. Heavy duty AP clutch.
The short engine was done by B&E Randall, the crank has been knife edged, the bottom end was dynamically balanced and ARP bolts were used on the big ends, The head was done by Mike Tanski, again this is as new, includes a brand new Kent 300° cam.

We are booked in with HT racing at Brands hatch next week to get it set up, once this has been done it will be a case of a few track days and iron out any issues while we get our licences.

Thanks

Danny

[andy97]

No issue with dry sump. Hope you enjoy it.

Just get your licence ASAP and get racing - CSCC tin tops is a good place to start. You will need a bigger fuel tank to last 40 mins but other than that should be good to go.

Edited by andy97 on Friday 8th April 06:25

[majordad]

Get out racing rather than trackdays in it as that's the way you learn, you need the pressure of the coalface ! And it's not much more expensive than a trackday really.

[Hubnut77]

What size fuel tank do this it will require ?

[majordad]

Estimate consumption 1 litre per minute plus a reserve so say 50 L ?

[andy97]

The 2 litre Toyota Carina that I raced in Tin Tops had a 25 litre tank and managed 40 mins. The 1500cc Alfa had a standard Alfa 33 tank (30 litres?) and was fine and my current Porsche 924S has a 50 litre standard tank and if I brim it it will do about 1 hour 15.

So, I think a 1600 Ford Escort will probably do a 40 min race on 30 litres; maybe go for a 40 litre tank to be sure and enable you to race in some longer races later ( my memory is that the CSCC Spa races are an hour, but I might be wrong).

[Hubnut77]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I will keep an eye out for a larger tank.

[PistonSquizz]

ECU issue has now been resolved. Car going for running in and mapping later this week. If all goes well our first CSCC meeting this year will be Anglesey I think!

[evilmiyagi]

I'll see you there

I'm now competing in both Modern Classics and Tin Tops at selected rounds...

[Thurbs]

I will keep an eye out for you, I am in a blue Clio usually near the back in TinTops #721.