New Mazda RX8 Cup to launch in 750MC Roadsports Series

[MarkKo]

Hi Andy,
Hope you are well,
This sounds like it could be really competitive and not too costly to enter,will the suspension be altered or is that staying Road?

[andy97]

MarkKo said:

Hi Andy,
Hope you are well,
This sounds like it could be really competitive and not too costly to enter,will the suspension be altered or is that staying Road?

Hi Mark, I am not the expert here, but I understand that the suspension stays stock.

Most details are being discussed on the CSCC New Millenium FB site. Full regs will be released in a few weeks time, I understand.

[Kraken]

Seems to be a rash of "stock" type series coming out lately. I'm not convinced that it makes for a level a playing field as a lot on social media seem to think it does. There will always be someone who can afford to buy and test several engines, replace all suspension components with new at the slightest sign of wear, have mechanics so they can rest rather than work on the car, test endlessly etc etc.

[roddo]

Keep us informed Andy......this could be fun

[andy97]

Will do, Paul.

The regs should be out in a few weeks, so I will post a link then.

There has been a lot of enthusiasm for the Series already on the CSCC "New Millenium" FB page, and the RX8 OC forum, and one or two people have bought cars to prepare already!

Of course, the Series will be a class within the New Millenium series so it doesn't have to get 20 cars to be a success.

Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 2nd October 07:40

[rallycross]

I like the sound of this, if costs are kept low could be great fun, these cars are quick on track in standard 231 bhp form.

I especially like this bit to keep it simple.

No special editions, no fancy wheels or noisy exhausts, as you will only have to change them back to standard.

[andy97]

rallycross said:

I like the sound of this, if costs are kept low could be great fun, these cars are quick on track in standard 231 bhp form.

I especially like this bit to keep it simple.

No special editions, no fancy wheels or noisy exhausts, as you will only have to change them back to standard.

I understands that the intention is to keep it simple - simple strip out, add mandatory safety kit and that's about it. Sort of similar concept of regs to the Citroen C1s but RWD!!

[geeks]

I have read about this and I don't really understand it. I also can't help but feel if it was such a good idea/base car it should/would have already been done! However I have been wrong before and wish them luck, https://www.pressreader.com/uk/motor-sport-news/20... regs will need to be tighter than a ducks arse to keep it in check (as with all motorsport really)

[Kraken]

It will be relatively cheap (for motorsport) to take part in but like all series expensive to be at the sharp end. There's so much more to it than just the build cost of the car.

[HustleRussell]

Presumably like any engine the Rotary's performance will vary broadly depending on its build and mileage

Can anyone comment on whether this factor is more or less pronounced with a rotary compared to a piston engine?

There can be a significant variation between piston engines even if they've come straight off the production line and of course once used they can diverge from there

In any stock series if you just buy an average donor car and make the stock modifications without freshening up the engine etc you can expect to be seconds off the ultimate pace, I feel that with rotaries that gap might be somewhat bigger? They are all old cars now...

[Fishy Dave]

To avoid confusion as the new initiative has no connection to the 750MC I have started a new thread here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Regards, David

[NJH]

Kraken said:

Seems to be a rash of "stock" type series coming out lately. I'm not convinced that it makes for a level a playing field as a lot on social media seem to think it does. There will always be someone who can afford to buy and test several engines, replace all suspension components with new at the slightest sign of wear, have mechanics so they can rest rather than work on the car, test endlessly etc etc.

More level then. I have taken part in a fairly open Championship, I can remember one guy buying up the last stock of magnesium wheels from a former well known manufacturer at great cost because it saved about 10 Kg in rotating mass. That sort of stuff just turns the sport into a game of who has the biggest wallet. Most of the points you raise are fair but they are all relatively tiny performance factors except perhaps the testing, but then only because it makes all the other tiny tweeks viable in terms of incrementally improving performance. As its almost impossible to police testing except where one is using controlled supply of uniquely identifiable tyres (barcodes for example) very few seem to try and restrict testing outside of top professional motorsport. Still though there is also an argument that testing a lot just shows ones commitment to the sport and effort to improve, albeit at a cost beyond just the time commitment. Its a difficult balance act for sure for what is supposed to be an amateur sport done for fun.

Your post though does raise another critical point that is often overlooked. Cost, reliability and performance of OEM components, or the modification package. Many focus on the donor car cost but of course that is largely irrelevant over several seasons where one could end up spending a fortune replacing all the bits that break, wear fast or where knackered on the donor car.