MSV Team Trophy & Trackday Trophy 2014

MSV Team Trophy & Trackday Trophy 2014

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iguana

7,037 posts

260 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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So how is that tailwing stolen off a 747 legal on the vx220?

Meant to be a stock silhouette in that series non?

djroadboy

1,175 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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"Bodywork must be complete and standard in shape and silhouette, material and
thickness on all exterior surfaces except that bonnets, boots and spoilers may be
replaced with lightweight replicas and any non metallic panel may be replaced with
a fibreglass replica. In the case of a hatchback the hatch may be fibreglass"

Dan

fiveoclockhero1

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672 posts

184 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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iguana said:
So how is that tailwing stolen off a 747 legal on the vx220?

Meant to be a stock silhouette in that series non?
Because it complies with section 5.8.2 of the regulations and the series organiser and the scrutineers in every one of 15 races have said that it complies.



fiveoclockhero1

Original Poster:

672 posts

184 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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djroadboy said:
"Bodywork must be complete and standard in shape and silhouette, material and
thickness on all exterior surfaces except that bonnets, boots and spoilers may be
replaced with lightweight replicas and any non metallic panel may be replaced with
a fibreglass replica. In the case of a hatchback the hatch may be fibreglass"

Dan
Thats 5.8.1, now read 5.8.2 and thats how it complies

djroadboy

1,175 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Yes, I wasn't arguing the point Mark. Just showing what the regs say.

5.8.2 pretty much says that anything goes as long as you're not dominating. Wonder if they'd let me run a central seat Lotus. Strange set of regulations but it seems to work ok.

Dan

fiveoclockhero1

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672 posts

184 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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djroadboy said:
Yes, I wasn't arguing the point Mark. Just showing what the regs say.

5.8.2 pretty much says that anything goes as long as you're not dominating. Wonder if they'd let me run a central seat Lotus. Strange set of regulations but it seems to work ok.

Dan
I was talking to Jez at BoT about this today, about converting the VX to centre seat, its really not a hard job, however reg 5.9d says the driver must sit entirely to one side of the centre line of the car and I believe CSCC, 750MC and Eurosaloons say similar.

Are you doing the Brands GP mixed TDT/TT race on the Lotus Festival Saturday?


Edited by fiveoclockhero1 on Thursday 29th May 01:02

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Centre seat Elise would be allowed in CSCC Modern Classics and would be very welcome as long as it complies with our few other regs.

The VX220 rear wing is removed for CSCC.

fiveoclockhero1

Original Poster:

672 posts

184 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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andy97 said:
Centre seat Elise would be allowed in CSCC Modern Classics and would be very welcome as long as it complies with our few other regs.

The VX220 rear wing is removed for CSCC.
I see that as odd as IMO the centre seat would give more of an advantage than the wing. So are you saying the centre seat Elise would be allowed as a handful, 14 years ago, were factory centre seat but never road registered whereas no VXs were and that wouldnt be allowed a centre seat?

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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If someone wants to develop a central seat VX220 or Ferrari 355 or Toyota MR2 etc then they can, as long as the car complies with our other regs; whether its worth the expense is another matter. (Note the VX220 is allowed in Modern Classics in N/A form only).

CSCC, 750 Roadsports and MSVR Team/ Trackday Trophy all have slightly different regs so I guess that attracts different people/ cars to each.

wildman0609

885 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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andy97 said:
If someone wants to develop a central seat VX220 or Ferrari 355 or Toyota MR2 etc then they can, as long as the car complies with our other regs;.
So a mclaren F1 is eligible?

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Sure, although I can't see it happening!

djroadboy

1,175 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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fiveoclockhero1 said:
I see that as odd as IMO the centre seat would give more of an advantage than the wing.
I'm pretty sure there is very little performance advantage to the central seat but it is cool as fk! biggrin My last one was just a quick in RHD as it was central seat.

Dan

djroadboy

1,175 posts

236 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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fiveoclockhero1 said:
Are you doing the Brands GP mixed TDT/TT race on the Lotus Festival Saturday?
Not gonna have a car ready for then unfortunately. Would like to do a full season next year though. Can't decide whether to build an S1 Motorsport Elise or a 2-11.

Dan

fiveoclockhero1

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672 posts

184 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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djroadboy said:
Not gonna have a car ready for then unfortunately. Would like to do a full season next year though. Can't decide whether to build an S1 Motorsport Elise or a 2-11.

Dan
S1 chassis is the way forward

djroadboy

1,175 posts

236 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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I have an S1 chassis which is pretty much race prepped and ready to go Mark. Just don't know whether to put a motorsport elise body or a 2-11 body on it. biggrin

Dan

staceyboy

77 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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It seems that big wings have been outlawed in this series now. Do folk seem to think it's made a difference to them?

Trek930

129 posts

167 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Anyone looking forward to this Saturday.....44 car grid!!

Ive been practising furiously on GT6, I wonder if ill have the same amount of balls when it comes to reality!!

jeff666

2,323 posts

191 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Trek930 said:
Anyone looking forward to this Saturday.....44 car grid!!

Ive been practising furiously on GT6, I wonder if ill have the same amount of balls when it comes to reality!!
Yep, should be good, we have an early start, heading up from Bournemouth.

Trek930

129 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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And heres me thinking I was hard done by having to traverse the M25, hopefully itll be traffic free before 7am!

Trek930

129 posts

167 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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What did people think of the race on Saturday? I thought it was great even though I only finished 28th, a great track, but I did think the Trackday Team guys were far more aggressive than Ive been used to this year. I know its racing and all but I almost got punted off the track twice with hugely last minute overtaking moves round a few corners that wouldve seen me in the wall if I had taken avoiding action. Looks like it will be a big step up next year in Class B. I noticed that the white Porsche that took class B honours on Saturday took 2 seconds off last years Elise class B lap recordin similar conditions.....hmmmm!