Getting Started in Hillclimbs/Sprints
Discussion
freedman said:
e21Mark said:
Crystal Palace was my first event 4 years ago. I had a great time and was made to feel very welcome. It's not the longest course, but still quite technical and great fun.
I went to North Weald once and it's in such terrible condition, I never bothered again.
I'm doing both days at CP this year. What colour is your 911? I'll come and say hello.
Mark,I went to North Weald once and it's in such terrible condition, I never bothered again.
I'm doing both days at CP this year. What colour is your 911? I'll come and say hello.
Look forwrad to seeing you, car is metallic Grey
I think I remember your car from your first event, wasnt that when the Sierra got rolled?
veloce said:
e21Mark said:
Yes, I think you're right. I missed last year sadly, but 2012 was terrific with lovely weather on both days. All being well, I'll be in an E30 M3 this year.
E30 M3 would be in over 2 litre class I'd imagine you'll be fitting a supercharger or a turbo to that soon !
It's had a few mods though and is pretty quick.
Wondering if the knowledgable people in this thread can help me, last year i obtained my ARDS Nat B with a view to start racing, for many reasons it ended up not happening and i've recently been researching perhaps doing some hillclimbing and/or sprints, one question I can't seem to find an answer to though... Racing earns signatures, helping to upgrade your license, does hill climbing/sprinting do the same?
As Trev says, there's a similar system. You get a non-race Nat B to start with. 4 signatures gets it up to a Nat A licence, which is required for some championships and also means you can enter any event. A further 4 signatures gets it up to Nat A (Open), which lets you drive a racing car or sports libre car of over 2000cc.
andylaurence said:
As Trev says, there's a similar system. You get a non-race Nat B to start with. 4 signatures gets it up to a Nat A licence, which is required for some championships and also means you can enter any event. A further 4 signatures gets it up to Nat A (Open), which lets you drive a racing car or sports libre car of over 2000cc.
I never understood this Nat A (Open) thing. Do you need a further 4 signatures from Nat B events to go from Nat A->Nat A (Open), or do you have to do four Nat A events to get Nat A (Open)?carl_w said:
andylaurence said:
As Trev says, there's a similar system. You get a non-race Nat B to start with. 4 signatures gets it up to a Nat A licence, which is required for some championships and also means you can enter any event. A further 4 signatures gets it up to Nat A (Open), which lets you drive a racing car or sports libre car of over 2000cc.
I never understood this Nat A (Open) thing. Do you need a further 4 signatures from Nat B events to go from Nat A->Nat A (Open), or do you have to do four Nat A events to get Nat A (Open)?Trev450 said:
You require 4 signatures to progress to each licence above Nat B.
Still not clear TBH. I currently have a Speed Nat A licence, but I compete mostly in Nat B events. What signatures do I need to get to Nat A (Open)? Do I need to compete in 4 Nat A events? Or will 4 Nat B events suffice?carl_w said:
can see this may be the case, but if I want to compete in Nat B sprints in a non-road registered car of >2 litres I need a Nat A (OPEN) licence.
Only if the car is libre or a racing car. If it's modprod then AFAIK your non-race Nat B is fine.The change was made to stop people going out in a single seater with a 3.5 litre V8 or something similar on their first event. I don't agree with it, but that's why it was made. Given that BSC rounds have been won by under 2l cars before, beating the big V8s (won't happen this year at anything the Calders enter, I think), it does seem somewhat anomalous.
Ultimately the only way to get the regulations changed is to send feedback to the relevant MSA committee as to why you think there is a problem. The relevant committee is the sprint & hillclimb sub-committee of Speed events committee in this case. The names of all the committee members are in the front of the blue book. The members are not MSA employees, they are volunteers from within the sport (competitors, organisers etc. ).
onomatopoeia said:
The change was made to stop people going out in a single seater with a 3.5 litre V8 or something similar on their first event. I don't agree with it, but that's why it was made. Given that BSC rounds have been won by under 2l cars before, beating the big V8s (won't happen this year at anything the Calders enter, I think), it does seem somewhat anomalous.
I understand that, but that was before the era of bike-engined cars. Now you can, with a Nat B licence, go out in your first event in 250kg of Jedi with nearly 200bhp of bike engine sitting behind you.Gassing Station | UK Club Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff