Not so Fun Cup. Idiot decides to drive on to the live track.
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Link re my post above: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1366931/Nav...
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/blueb...
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MSA Blue Book said:
From 1 July 1992, the offences of dangerous,
careless and inconsiderate driving of a
mechanically propelled vehicle on a road (sections
1, 2 and 3 of the Act as amended by the Road
Traffic Act 1991) also apply to a public place.
The extension of road traffic law to public places
has important consequences for those who take
part or organise events involving motor vehicles in
fields, parks or other areas where the general
public is admitted either free of charge or on
payment of an entrance fee.
The above offences do not apply to those taking
part in ‘authorised’ motoring events when driving
in a public place other than a road, provided they
are driving in accordance with the appropriate
authorisation for that event. Section 13A allows for
the ‘disapplication of sections 1 to 3 for authorised
motoring events’ and provides powers for The
Motor Vehicles (Off-Road Events) Regulations 1995
which introduces a system for authorising events.
The Royal Automobile Club is an ‘Authorising
Body’ under these Regulations.
It is not illegal to organise or take part in an
unauthorised motoring event in a public place,
but drivers and riders should be aware that they are
liable to prosecution if they drive dangerously or
carelessly.
There are many kinds of motoring events. Different
rules are appropriate to minimise risk to participants,
spectators and other members of the public who
may be present.
A precise definition of ‘event’ or ‘public place’ cannot
be given. If there is any doubt organisers are advised
to seek legal advice. Authorising bodies should
consider whether the event requires drivers to drive
dangerously. It is not the purpose of the Regulations
to legitimise unnecessary dangerous driving, nor is it
desirable to authorise an activity which is likely to be
regarded as an event as this could give drivers a
false sense of security.
It is not foreseen that courts would regard purpose
built stadiums, where the public have no access to
the place where the event is staged, as a public
place.
careless and inconsiderate driving of a
mechanically propelled vehicle on a road (sections
1, 2 and 3 of the Act as amended by the Road
Traffic Act 1991) also apply to a public place.
The extension of road traffic law to public places
has important consequences for those who take
part or organise events involving motor vehicles in
fields, parks or other areas where the general
public is admitted either free of charge or on
payment of an entrance fee.
The above offences do not apply to those taking
part in ‘authorised’ motoring events when driving
in a public place other than a road, provided they
are driving in accordance with the appropriate
authorisation for that event. Section 13A allows for
the ‘disapplication of sections 1 to 3 for authorised
motoring events’ and provides powers for The
Motor Vehicles (Off-Road Events) Regulations 1995
which introduces a system for authorising events.
The Royal Automobile Club is an ‘Authorising
Body’ under these Regulations.
It is not illegal to organise or take part in an
unauthorised motoring event in a public place,
but drivers and riders should be aware that they are
liable to prosecution if they drive dangerously or
carelessly.
There are many kinds of motoring events. Different
rules are appropriate to minimise risk to participants,
spectators and other members of the public who
may be present.
A precise definition of ‘event’ or ‘public place’ cannot
be given. If there is any doubt organisers are advised
to seek legal advice. Authorising bodies should
consider whether the event requires drivers to drive
dangerously. It is not the purpose of the Regulations
to legitimise unnecessary dangerous driving, nor is it
desirable to authorise an activity which is likely to be
regarded as an event as this could give drivers a
false sense of security.
It is not foreseen that courts would regard purpose
built stadiums, where the public have no access to
the place where the event is staged, as a public
place.
Edited by Scuffers on Monday 16th June 15:46
Racing Rod said:
Fun Cup competitors pay a lot of money for our track time and in race fees, I am therefore looking at the legal possibilities of starting a combined law suit/class action against this moron to re-claim our race fees and costs as he ruined our race. With 26 teams or so in play at an average cost per team of say £4000, then he could be looking at £104,000 plus legal fees in compensation, that will wipe the smile of his stupid face for many years to come !!
Go for it. And the very best of luck to you.Scuffers said:
Edited by Scuffers on Monday 16th June 15:46
Carnage said:
Scuffers said:
Edited by Scuffers on Monday 16th June 15:46
The driver jack Cottle has been arrested 
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/brands-h...
Autosport are reporting
The 21-year-old, from Tonbridge in Kent, was taken into police custody on Monday on suspicion of false imprisonment.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114482
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/brands-h...
Autosport are reporting
The 21-year-old, from Tonbridge in Kent, was taken into police custody on Monday on suspicion of false imprisonment.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114482
Edited by woof on Monday 16th June 17:11
I was at the British GP competing in a support race in 1999 when the Naval officer was killed. I also happened to be competing at Brands on Saturday when these lunatics got onto the track. The first was a drunken prank and should in my opinion have been manslaughter. This was careless/dangerous and clearly endangering their lives as well as the competitors in the race. The consequences could have been horrific.
It appears as though the perpetrator had complete knowledge of how to get onto the track and this was clearly very deliberate. I believe the girl neeeded medical attention afterwards showing what complete disregard they had for their actions or for anyone else. Anyone unsupervised or unqualified requires a licence to go on to the track during a meeting.
At the very least these people should never be allowed near a race track again and at best they should be locked up. Their complet lack of contrition shows what a pair of out of control imbeciles these guys are.
It appears as though the perpetrator had complete knowledge of how to get onto the track and this was clearly very deliberate. I believe the girl neeeded medical attention afterwards showing what complete disregard they had for their actions or for anyone else. Anyone unsupervised or unqualified requires a licence to go on to the track during a meeting.
At the very least these people should never be allowed near a race track again and at best they should be locked up. Their complet lack of contrition shows what a pair of out of control imbeciles these guys are.
andygo said:
We were racing there (FF) when this happened.Our race was after the fun cup incident. The gate and route onto the pitlane was still unmarshalled and open. For those that know the assembly area and scrutineering bay, it was that large swinging gate that allows access from the service road behind the pits onto the pitlane.
Whilst nobody could really anticipate such an incident, they could have shut the stable door after the horse had escaped on track at the very least.....
We we there on Sunday. We didn't know about this incident but I did notice a larger presence of marshalls - There was a marshall at both ends of the subway that takes you to the inner paddock. I did think it was odd but this explains it. All garage doors on the inner paddock had to be shut when not in use to prevent someone getting on track.Whilst nobody could really anticipate such an incident, they could have shut the stable door after the horse had escaped on track at the very least.....
Racing Rod said:
I do hope the police will take action and not hide behind the private land aspect, if someone threatened to kill or endanger someone else on private land or otherwise they would be on it instantly, this moron did endanger others and deserves a serious deterrent to stop him doing this or something equally stupid in the future, if he keeps this sort of thing up his future could be somewhat limited !!
I was racing in the event and at the time of the incident we were up to third having started in 13th, all was going well and we had time to improve on our position, 2nd place was a definite possibility and a win was not out of the question, this idiot caused us and other terms to accept our positions prematurely so cost us and others championship points.
Fun Cup competitors pay a lot of money for our track time and in race fees, I am therefore looking at the legal possibilities of starting a combined law suit/class action against this moron to re-claim our race fees and costs as he ruined our race. With 26 teams or so in play at an average cost per team of say £4000, then he could be looking at £104,000 plus legal fees in compensation, that will wipe the smile of his stupid face for many years to come !!
You won't have much trouble finding these idiots. None of them seem to know anything about cyber security!!I was racing in the event and at the time of the incident we were up to third having started in 13th, all was going well and we had time to improve on our position, 2nd place was a definite possibility and a win was not out of the question, this idiot caused us and other terms to accept our positions prematurely so cost us and others championship points.
Fun Cup competitors pay a lot of money for our track time and in race fees, I am therefore looking at the legal possibilities of starting a combined law suit/class action against this moron to re-claim our race fees and costs as he ruined our race. With 26 teams or so in play at an average cost per team of say £4000, then he could be looking at £104,000 plus legal fees in compensation, that will wipe the smile of his stupid face for many years to come !!
Driver's facebook page with all his friends for the world to see
Good luck with the case. £100,000+ will hurt a bit more than 50 hours of painting railings.
I hope there isn't a knee jerk reaction to this. At most circuits it is very easy for a spectator to get track side for example but it has happened very rarely, remember the nutter at the British GP years ago? Its hard to see this incident as anything other than a one-off prank by an a
hole trying to get publicity for himself. If anything it says more about the warped celebrity obsessed big brother culture this country has than anything to do with circuit security.
hole trying to get publicity for himself. If anything it says more about the warped celebrity obsessed big brother culture this country has than anything to do with circuit security.woof said:
BRSCC statement http://www.brscc.co.uk/BRANDS-HATCH-INCIDENT-SATUR...
The guy in the back is still boasting about it on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/zac.copson
Looks like he's been busy with the delete button. That video is hopefully going to haunt him for quite some time yet.The guy in the back is still boasting about it on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/zac.copson
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