Bedding in new slix

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77racing

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3,346 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I have a set of new slix I will need to use this coming weekend. Qually looks to be wet but the race is looking to be dry. I would normally bed new slix in during qually. Couple of questions.....can you race on new slix without putting a heat cycle through them first with out damaging them ? and secondly I was thinking of CAREFULLY bringing the new tyres up to temperature on the rolling road. Anyone think using the rollers is a bad idea and if so why.

Weslake-Monza

461 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Why not ask the tyre manufacturer and report back?

chrisb0

217 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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My advice is to leave them alone, the best life is always just after you scrub the surface on the first heat cycle, everything else is down hill from there.
Simply give them a bit of a scrub on the green flag lap to get the release agent cleaned off.
Biggest problem you have is pressure, as you haven't done a run on them you will have to guess the starting pressure to ensure they are at optimum after a few laps at race pace.
On my 997 i usually start a race as low as 20psi then they go up to around 30 after a few laps. If they go above 32 its like driving on ice, below 28 its all a bit lively.

Also it's always good to go to the grid on new tyres with the stickers still on, gives you a psychological edge smile


Edited by chrisb0 on Wednesday 1st October 20:21

BertBert

19,037 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Stickers on the grid all the way! Go through your warm up on the green flag lap. It might take a little longer for them to come in (depending on size) than scrubbed slicks. But once they do it's like racing and sex combined biggrin

77racing

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3,346 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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thanx, I will contact Dunlop as well to see what they say and report back their advice,although no luck so far finding a phone number for them as yet.
size is 285/660/18

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Why, in the name of the Holy Grape of Grimsby, can't you type SLICKS....?

Just wondered...smile

ctsdave

872 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Perry starting on the grid with sticker new slicks will be fine matey!! Dunlop have told me before for our cars and tyre size around 29psi hot.

77racing

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3,346 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
Why, in the name of the Holy Grape of Grimsby, can't you type SLICKS....?

Just wondered...smile
Thanx for your post wink

77racing

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3,346 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Weslake-Monza said:
Why not ask the tyre manufacturer and report back?
I spoke to Dunlop Motorsport dept and a leading Dunlop motorsport distributor this morning. Their advise was broadly the same. Ideally you want to put a gentle heat cycle through the tyre before you race on them. If you race on new slix they are good for the first part of the race with lap performance dropping off steadily as you go, also the tyres longevity is seriously compromised. For instance if you ran your tyres for 5 races you would only get reliable reduced performance for 3 races after with no pre race curing, that's ok if you have a good tyre budget. Cold to hot pressure will be the same from new tyres as from a used set. Both advised a hot pressure no more than 30psi although they varied quite a bit on starting pressures. Dunlop thought my start psi was ok and I like to end up at 29psi hot.

One said absolutely no to the rolling road idea the other had no problem as long as you don't over do it and start gently and build up heat, bringing tyre up to a temp short of blistering hot but just enough to cure tyre again. They suggested I use a temp gun across the width of the tyre. They both agreed that a heat cycle before was the way to go if possible to achieve longevity and consistent lap performance from the tyre, that's if you use your tyres for more than a race meeting as I do. They both said that their advise was for my set of circumstances and car and that other people and cars can vary, so seek advise tailored to you and your car was what I got from that

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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77racing said:
I have a set of new slix
Isnt that cheating ;-) i mean tyres with life in them as if..

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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77racing said:
mybrainhurts said:
Why, in the name of the Holy Grape of Grimsby, can't you type SLICKS....?

Just wondered...smile
Thanx for your post wink
Please stand still, I can't get a steady shot...smile