Starting out hillclimbing and sprinting & what car

Starting out hillclimbing and sprinting & what car

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heebeegeetee

28,697 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Vocal Minority said:
Cheers Carl - there will definately be a point when it stops becoming 'worth it' vis a vis expense!

Some handy hints though.

I need to read regulations more closely, would removing the spoiler means it no longer conforms with the basic 'silohuette' for example
I would respectfully suggest that it won't make a scrap of difference one way or t'other, not an ha'porth.

I'd say concentrate on making sure the car is mechanically sound, that the wheels point precisely where they should, and then learn the courses. Then when/if you get competitive start looking at the very fine points. (By which time you might want a Clio wink )

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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You can't make me want a Clio!

TroubledSoul

4,595 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Great stuff OP! The wife and I are considering trying out hillclimbing before moving on to circuit racing, just to get involved in something competitive and most importantly, fun!

I imagine we'll have stiff competition with an M3 Evo though.....

See if you can find a pair of TRD strut braces and a pair of the anti roll bars. They really help on the MR2. If you can find one, there's also a Tom's underbody brace but they are like rocking horse poo. I did have one on my last Turbo. It's a great mod.

Did anyone establish whether coilovers can be used? I can't see why not, as they are a different design to regular shocks but both are a coil over shock setup.

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Yes coilovers can be used in standard prod classes.

An M3 would put you in the same class as me which comprises mainly of Evo's, Subaru's and Porsches.

TroubledSoul

4,595 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Trev450 said:
Yes coilovers can be used in standard prod classes.

An M3 would put you in the same class as me which comprises mainly of Evo's, Subaru's and Porsches.
I.E. very fast people! laugh

Just seems a quicker way into some motorsport so we're very interested. Plus we live ten miles from Harewood...

carl_w

9,172 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Trev450 said:
Yes coilovers can be used in standard prod classes.

An M3 would put you in the same class as me which comprises mainly of Evo's, Subaru's and Porsches.
Be wary of terminology. In Roadgoing Production yes they can be used, but some championships run additional classes called "Standard Production" where coilovers cannot be used.

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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carl_w said:
Trev450 said:
Yes coilovers can be used in standard prod classes.

An M3 would put you in the same class as me which comprises mainly of Evo's, Subaru's and Porsches.
Be wary of terminology. In Roadgoing Production yes they can be used, but some championships run additional classes called "Standard Production" where coilovers cannot be used.
Good point and spot on too.

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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You know what, I have a bunch of questions about how to interpret the blue book too....

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Edited by Vocal Minority on Thursday 30th July 09:57

TroubledSoul

4,595 posts

194 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Vocal Minority said:
You know what, I have a bunch of questions about how to interpret the blue book too....
It looks a bit of a minefield in some areas doesn't it? I don't like things being open to interpretation when it could potentially involve wasting money!

binnerboy

486 posts

150 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Trev450 said:
carl_w said:
Trev450 said:
Yes coilovers can be used in standard prod classes.

An M3 would put you in the same class as me which comprises mainly of Evo's, Subaru's and Porsches.
Be wary of terminology. In Roadgoing Production yes they can be used, but some championships run additional classes called "Standard Production" where coilovers cannot be used.
Good point and spot on too.
All of which makes it fun when trying to sort out what you can and cannot put on a car. The bluebook is a base set of rules , individual clubs can then tailor them by adding to them by changing specifics of classes for example !

Best things to do is read the bluebook and then check events. Talk to the organizers of the events you want to enter for clarification, or even go to an event and walk round the paddock. Not done a hill climb but I imagine it is the same, the sprints I enter are free to spectate and spectators can wander around the pits chatting to competitors and looking at cars.

carl_w

9,172 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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binnerboy said:
Not done a hill climb but I imagine it is the same, the sprints I enter are free to spectate and spectators can wander around the pits chatting to competitors and looking at cars.
The sprints I enter are mostly non-spectator events (I think this means they don't have to fork out for public liability insurance) but if you e-mail the organizer you can usually get a pass.

OP: do a search for "MR2 crash bolts" (available from your local Toyota dealer) to get some decent negative camber. I think we followed the recommendation of small on the front and medium on the rear, but could have done with some more neg camber on the back. They're genuine Toyota items which would have been fitted to your car if it had been involved in a crash and needed some alignment.

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Edited by carl_w on Thursday 30th July 22:53

mozzerS

121 posts

205 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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binnerboy said:
All of which makes it fun when trying to sort out what you can and cannot put on a car. The bluebook is a base set of rules , individual clubs can then tailor them by adding to them by changing specifics of classes for example !

Best things to do is read the bluebook and then check events. Talk to the organizers of the events you want to enter for clarification, or even go to an event and walk round the paddock. Not done a hill climb but I imagine it is the same, the sprints I enter are free to spectate and spectators can wander around the pits chatting to competitors and looking at cars.
Exactly.
The individual clubs can have their own class structure - There are differences where they split the engine capacities and some separate sports from saloons.
Most sprints I've been to were free to spectate - eg Curborough, Thoresby, Blyton - but MIRA and Rockingham were no entry unless competing
Most Hillclimbs allow spectators but they usually charge on the gate.
It's good to visit and chat to the competitors as they can tell you about the classes/regs in their respective club or championship.
Plenty of events most weekends so you should find one not too far away.