UK Endurance series

[bozla]

Hi folks. I'm trying to work out all the Endurance series that exist in the UK. So far I have:
360mc series (3 hour races)
Endurance racing series (90 mins)
Brit car trophy (45min races)
Sports and touring car champs (90 min races)
British Endurance (90 mins)
Fun cup (4 hour races)
750 Roadsports (45 mins)
CSCC races (45 mins)
GT Cup (45 mins and sprint race)
British GT (1~4 hours)
MSVR trackday/team trophy (45 mins)


Basically I currently race as a team of 4 in karts (OEKC), but we are thinking of switching to cars next year. Our budget is about 20k so I'm trying to establish what we can race for that budget. The ideal for us would be fun-cup but I think the costs are going to be too high for us.

Edited by bozla on Sunday 17th May 19:20

Edited by bozla on Monday 18th May 20:43

[indigorallye]

You also have one off races such as The Birkett, Race of Rememberance, and Britcar24.

[Truckosaurus]

If you're counting 45min races, then there's also GT Cup and British GT.

[djroadboy]

Truckosaurus said:

If you're counting 45min races, then there's also GT Cup and British GT.

On a £20k budget???

Edited by djroadboy on Sunday 17th May 18:06

[Truckosaurus]

djroadboy said:

On a £20k budget???

I was answering part one of the 2-part question...

[bozla]

Truckosaurus said:

djroadboy said:

On a £20k budget??

I was answering part one of the 2-part question...

I've added to the list but I think it will be beyond our budget.

[andy97]

bozla said:

Hi folks. I'm trying to work out all the Endurance series that exist in the UK. So far I have:
360mc series (3 hour races)
Endurance racing series (90 mins)
Brit car trophy (45min races)
Sports and touring car champs (90 min races)
British Endurance (90 mins)
Fun cup (4 hour races)
750 Roadsports (45 mins)
CSCC races (45 mins)
GT Cup (45 mins and sprint race)
British GT (1~4 hours)
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Basically I currently race as a team of 4 in karts (OEKC), but we are thinking of switching to cars next year. Our budget is about 20k so I'm trying to establish what we can race for that budget. The ideal for us would be fun-cup but I think the costs are going to be too high for us.

Edited by bozla on Sunday 17th May 19:20

The 360 also run an annual 6 hour race aimed at clubman and very good value. £1500 entry fee for a 6 hour race and about 3 hours practice and qualifying). Classes for most cars and most ages and a great intro to endurance racing on a budget.

I think the ERS also run longer races, 3 hours?

Britcar also run, similar, longer races.

750 Roadsports is a good series with 3 x power to weight classes

CSCC offers several 40 min race series for a variety of eras for cars from the 60s right up to the modern day. It's very well run and its a great paddock to be part of.

MSVR offers similar to 750 and CSCC but 1 hour I think. There's a seperate thread about that series, and several threads about CSCC on here.

I don't know much about fun cup but you can hire drives with a number of teams and that may be a good option but it is very competitive.

I'd suggest that your budget limits you to 750, CSCC and 360 and if it was me I'd do a mix of those 3 at the circuits that were local to me, plus the 360 6 hours.

Edited by andy97 on Monday 18th May 08:12

[MyVTECGoesBwaaah]

Missing MSVR trackday trophy/team trophy off your list.

[megamaniac]

indigorallye said:

You also have one off races such as The Birkett, Race of Rememberance, and Britcar24.

And the 2cv 24hr race

[Tanuki]

There's also Lotus Cup UK.

Obviously Elise-based. 1 hour (minimum) races. However 20 bags won't get you very far in that even in Production class these days.

Also consider Creventic. Not UK based - but brilliantly run and organised (good grids too). Again though, budget and all that.

Edited by Tanuki on Monday 18th May 11:55

[88racing]

bozla said:

Endurance racing series (90 mins)

That's 2 hour or 3 hour depending on venue.

bozla said:

GT Cup (45 mins and sprint race)

Their longer race is now 50 minutes.

On your budget you can forget anything that requires refuelling.

Chris.

[andy97]

88racing said:

On your budget you can forget anything that requires refuelling.

Chris.

I know what you mean but the 360mrc races allow refuelling with the "Sunoco Tuff Jugs" which makes things a different order of magnitude cheaper.

[NJH]

andy97 said:

88racing said:

On your budget you can forget anything that requires refuelling.

Chris.

I know what you mean but the 360mrc races allow refuelling with the "Sunoco Tuff Jugs" which makes things a different order of magnitude cheaper.

Thanks Andy I was going to ask specifically this question. For your 924S that you were going to endurance race is there much you have had to do to the car different to that required for the CSCC events?

[bozla]

andy97 said:

The 360 also run an annual 6 hour race aimed at clubman and very good value. £1500 entry fee for a 6 hour race and about 3 hours practice and qualifying). Classes for most cars and most ages and a great intro to endurance racing on a budget.

I think the ERS also run longer races, 3 hours?

Britcar also run, similar, longer races.

750 Roadsports is a good series with 3 x power to weight classes

CSCC offers several 40 min race series for a variety of eras for cars from the 60s right up to the modern day. It's very well run and its a great paddock to be part of.

MSVR offers similar to 750 and CSCC but 1 hour I think. There's a seperate thread about that series, and several threads about CSCC on here.

I don't know much about fun cup but you can hire drives with a number of teams and that may be a good option but it is very competitive.

I'd suggest that your budget limits you to 750, CSCC and 360 and if it was me I'd do a mix of those 3 at the circuits that were local to me, plus the 360 6 hours.

Edited by andy97 on Monday 18th May 08:12

Thanks Andy. I actually raced roadsports when it re-started a few years back and really enjoyed it. It was cheap safe racing.. I think maybe mixing it up with 1 pair of us doing one series, and the other pair doing another might be the way to go. It gives us some pit crew as well. I was thinking of maybe doing the new millenium series and also tin-tops in one day, but I'm not sure it would be possible for 4 people to share 1 car in one day.

[bozla]

MyVTECGoesBwaaah said:

Missing MSVR trackday trophy/team trophy off your list.

Added - but I've heard it's a bit of a crash fest.

[bozla]

88racing said:

On your budget you can forget anything that requires refuelling.

Chris.

Hi Chris - thanks for this, I wasn't aware of the refuelling costs - might rule out ERS/Britcar then. Do you know what are the refuelling requirements/cost?

Thanks -Alex

[bozla]

Tanuki said:

Also consider Creventic. Not UK based - but brilliantly run and organised (good grids too). Again though, budget and all that.

Edited by Tanuki on Monday 18th May 11:55

I really like the idea of this one! Maybe we could do just the 12 hour races or something. We're nearly all novices at cars so maybe 2017.

[andy97]

bozla said:

I was thinking of maybe doing the new millenium series and also tin-tops in one day, but I'm not sure it would be possible for 4 people to share 1 car in one day.

I think it is. Several people race the same car in 2 different series on the same day.

[andy97]

NJH said:

andy97 said:

88racing said:

On your budget you can forget anything that requires refuelling.

Chris.

I know what you mean but the 360mrc races allow refuelling with the "Sunoco Tuff Jugs" which makes things a different order of magnitude cheaper.

Thanks Andy I was going to ask specifically this question. For your 924S that you were going to endurance race is there much you have had to do to the car different to that required for the CSCC events?

Neil, I must admit that I haven't prepped the car yet, due to time/ money/ work, but it's still on the agenda . Apart from sensible checks and replacement of some components and hoses etc the main work required is fitting an oil cooler and changing the fuel filler slightly. On the 924 the filler would benefit tuff jug use if it was modified to allow a more vertical use of the jug, and there's a breather pipe that needs to be moved to allow a faster fill.

I may also reduce the camber slightly to reduce strain on the suspension components

Should be ok for 360 level stuff as the car is fairly un stressed.

Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 19th May 07:13

[88racing]

bozla said:

Hi Chris - thanks for this, I wasn't aware of the refuelling costs - might rule out ERS/Britcar then. Do you know what are the refuelling requirements/cost?

To my knowledge both require proper dry break systems - expensive. But also look at whether you have to use supplied fuel, which can be exhorbitantly expensive!