A Baptism of Fire
Discussion
great write up
my first ever race was at brands hatch in a 1071cc classic mini
I was on a shared grid with the lma super tourers.
in the race I was going down the start straight doing about 70mph when a pair of super tourers doing god knows what speed (140 plus maybe) went either side of me with about a foot to spare.
both my mirrors folded in with the slip stream.......
one thing you need to remember about qualifying (particularly when you are a novice and trying to get the cross of the back) is that you just need to do the three laps to get on the back of the grid, once the three laps are done you can push on a bit, but there is no point trying to keep up with other cars and binning it on the first lap
my first ever race was at brands hatch in a 1071cc classic mini
I was on a shared grid with the lma super tourers.
in the race I was going down the start straight doing about 70mph when a pair of super tourers doing god knows what speed (140 plus maybe) went either side of me with about a foot to spare.
both my mirrors folded in with the slip stream.......
one thing you need to remember about qualifying (particularly when you are a novice and trying to get the cross of the back) is that you just need to do the three laps to get on the back of the grid, once the three laps are done you can push on a bit, but there is no point trying to keep up with other cars and binning it on the first lap
Thurbs said:
- Don’t slow too much for yellows, I was way too cautious.
Being a (trainee) marshall I think most of the guys in orange would disagree with that statement. You may have been too cautious compared to the other drivers however, but thats a different thing entirely. Heres hoping you stay away from the likes of me Here is the shunt from "Mr T Bone's" perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke-Bd73W_lY
As I thought really, knowhere to go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke-Bd73W_lY
As I thought really, knowhere to go...
Nice write up and well done for being completely honest! I had the same nervousness and also had a hit (much worse though) after only a few laps of my weekend (see http://cookracing.co.uk/).
Only problem is this stuff is dangerously addictive only much more expensive than a drug habbit!
I'm hoping to be back next year in PBMWC
Only problem is this stuff is dangerously addictive only much more expensive than a drug habbit!
I'm hoping to be back next year in PBMWC
So just finished my second weekend... and it was not quite "out of the frying pan in to the fire" I was expecting. The meeting was a CSCC mega grid with a combined entry of TinTops, New Millennium and Modern Classics at the Silverstone GP circuit. The good news is I had learnt half of it already, with just the north loop to get my head around.
I arrived in plenty of time on the Friday night having been liberated of many £££ by the menders for the previous events incident, they also set the car up and helped me out with tyre pressures and such like. I also picked up a new set of tyres in expectation of a wet days racing, although that turned out not to be the case.
The list of jobs to do before the race was:
- Install the new GoPro.
- Install the new RaceLogic Lap Timer.
- Put the new tyres on the back.
- Put the CSCC numbers on, take the 750MC numbers off.
- Take off the previous owner’s adverts etc off.
- Torque up nuts and set pressures.
- Fuel up.
So after meeting the neighbours we set about the work and got most of it done before it started pissing it down with rain.
Up early again at 5:30 (really need to sleep more the night before a race) we got sorted and finished off the list ready for sign on at about 9. I was feeling more comfortable as qualifying wasn’t until middayish so plenty of time to get sorted. Scrutineering was fine with only a couple of minor points to do. The driver briefing was a bit pointless and a waste of prep time… it could have been summed up by a warning “not to crash” and “we are all here” and because this took 30 minutes it meant a rush back to the paddock and in to the assembly area.
So out on the circuit I set about getting a good lap time over the 30 minutes. It was quite hard to get a clean lap in given the amount of qualifiers on the circuit (59) but there were a few which were pretty good. Unfortunately I forgot to start the GoPro so don’t have any footage.
Amazingly I ended up qualifying in 40th out of 58 and 6th out of 11 in class. 1s quicker and I would have been 35th so a pretty tight grid.
Lunch, checking levels, swapping tyres and such like took up the 3 hours between qualifying & the race and with much trepidation I set about psyching myself up to the onslaught being in the tick of a 58 car grid. Unfortunately the GoPro isn’t positioned well to get the correct exposure, but here it is anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJNisJlPwss
Any armchair or real experts who want to give me some pointers are most welcome.
I finished a pretty reasonable 41st out of 51 finishers, but 7th out of 7 in class. My fastest lap was 2/10ths quicker than the Fiesta’s I was racing before the pitstop and they finished in a group at around 30th. I think with a much faster pit stop I would have been in the mix. You live and learn.
I am completely hooked on this merry-go-round and have already booked 750mc Roadsports at Donnington in 3 weeks time. They have a 45m race with a pit stop, but you don’t have to get out… result!
Some pictures:
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
I arrived in plenty of time on the Friday night having been liberated of many £££ by the menders for the previous events incident, they also set the car up and helped me out with tyre pressures and such like. I also picked up a new set of tyres in expectation of a wet days racing, although that turned out not to be the case.
The list of jobs to do before the race was:
- Install the new GoPro.
- Install the new RaceLogic Lap Timer.
- Put the new tyres on the back.
- Put the CSCC numbers on, take the 750MC numbers off.
- Take off the previous owner’s adverts etc off.
- Torque up nuts and set pressures.
- Fuel up.
So after meeting the neighbours we set about the work and got most of it done before it started pissing it down with rain.
Up early again at 5:30 (really need to sleep more the night before a race) we got sorted and finished off the list ready for sign on at about 9. I was feeling more comfortable as qualifying wasn’t until middayish so plenty of time to get sorted. Scrutineering was fine with only a couple of minor points to do. The driver briefing was a bit pointless and a waste of prep time… it could have been summed up by a warning “not to crash” and “we are all here” and because this took 30 minutes it meant a rush back to the paddock and in to the assembly area.
So out on the circuit I set about getting a good lap time over the 30 minutes. It was quite hard to get a clean lap in given the amount of qualifiers on the circuit (59) but there were a few which were pretty good. Unfortunately I forgot to start the GoPro so don’t have any footage.
P40 | 721 | Richard THURBIN | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
LAP | LAP TIME | DIFF | MPH | TIME OF DAY |
1 - | 2:54.427 | 11.803 | 75.54 | 11:31:07.271 |
2 - | 2:46.819 | 4.195 | 78.99 | 11:33:54.090 |
3 - | 2:45.782 | 3.158 | 79.48 | 11:36:39.872 |
4 - | 2:44.979 | 2.355 | 79.87 | 11:39:24.851 |
5 - | 2:43.676 (3) | 1.052 | 80.51 | 11:42:08.527 |
6 - | 2:53.332 | 10.708 | 76.02 | 11:45:01.859 |
7 - | 2:44.322 | 1.698 | 80.19 | 11:47:46.181 |
8 - | 2:46.097 | 3.473 | 79.33 | 11:50:32.278 |
9 - | 2:43.465 (2) | 0.841 | 80.61 | 11:53:15.743 |
10 - | 2:42.624 (1) | 81.03 | 11:55:58.367 | |
11 - | 2:44.772 | 2.148 | 79.97 | 11:58:43.139 |
Amazingly I ended up qualifying in 40th out of 58 and 6th out of 11 in class. 1s quicker and I would have been 35th so a pretty tight grid.
Lunch, checking levels, swapping tyres and such like took up the 3 hours between qualifying & the race and with much trepidation I set about psyching myself up to the onslaught being in the tick of a 58 car grid. Unfortunately the GoPro isn’t positioned well to get the correct exposure, but here it is anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJNisJlPwss
Any armchair or real experts who want to give me some pointers are most welcome.
I finished a pretty reasonable 41st out of 51 finishers, but 7th out of 7 in class. My fastest lap was 2/10ths quicker than the Fiesta’s I was racing before the pitstop and they finished in a group at around 30th. I think with a much faster pit stop I would have been in the mix. You live and learn.
P41 | 721 | Richard THURBIN | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
LAP | LAP TIME | DIFF | MPH | TIME OF DAY |
1 - | 3:00.531 | 18.778 | 72.99 | 16:32:59.473 |
2 - | 2:49.171 | 7.418 | 77.89 | 16:35:48.644 |
3 - | 2:45.508 | 3.755 | 79.62 | 16:38:34.152 |
4 - | 2:45.926 | 4.173 | 79.41 | 16:41:20.078 |
5 - | 2:44.225 | 2.472 | 80.24 | 16:44:04.303 |
6 - | 2:41.753 (1) | 81.46 | 16:46:46.056 | |
7 - | 2:43.185 (2) | 1.432 | 80.75 | 16:49:29.241 |
8 - | 2:46.356 | 4.603 | 79.21 | 16:52:15.597 |
9 - | 2:49.159 P | 7.406 | 77.90 | 16:55:04.756 |
10 - | 4:57.096 | 2:15.343 | 44.35 | 17:00:01.852 |
11 - | 2:46.370 | 4.617 | 79.20 | 17:02:48.222 |
12 - | 2:43.970 (3) | 2.217 | 80.36 | 17:05:32.192 |
13 - | 2:45.004 | 3.251 | 79.86 | 17:08:17.196 |
14 - | 2:46.744 | 4.991 | 79.03 | 17:11:03.940 |
I am completely hooked on this merry-go-round and have already booked 750mc Roadsports at Donnington in 3 weeks time. They have a 45m race with a pit stop, but you don’t have to get out… result!
Some pictures:
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
http://www.davidstallardphotography.com/ClassicSpo...
Great, I think we are in the same class?
I was at Donnington on Friday learning the circuit in preperation for the race and managed a 1:57.24 before it rained.
I got quicker each session with:
S1 - 2:10.08
s2 - 2:00.04
s3 - 1:57.70 & 1:57.93
s4 - 1:57.24 & 1:57.38
The VBox tells me my "ideal lap" ie the best of all sectors is a 1:57.17.
No idea if this is fast or not to be honest, but it felt on the limit and I have no idea where the next second is comming from.
Then it pissed it down and that was loads of fun. It meant learning the whole circuit again and pushing things to the limit once more... I managed to do a 2:15.80, before finding a 'more interesting line' through crainer curves.
So do you think will I be at the back again?
I was at Donnington on Friday learning the circuit in preperation for the race and managed a 1:57.24 before it rained.
I got quicker each session with:
S1 - 2:10.08
s2 - 2:00.04
s3 - 1:57.70 & 1:57.93
s4 - 1:57.24 & 1:57.38
The VBox tells me my "ideal lap" ie the best of all sectors is a 1:57.17.
No idea if this is fast or not to be honest, but it felt on the limit and I have no idea where the next second is comming from.
Then it pissed it down and that was loads of fun. It meant learning the whole circuit again and pushing things to the limit once more... I managed to do a 2:15.80, before finding a 'more interesting line' through crainer curves.
So do you think will I be at the back again?
Thurbs said:
Great, I think we are in the same class?
I was at Donnington on Friday learning the circuit in preperation for the race and managed a 1:57.24 before it rained.
I got quicker each session with:
S1 - 2:10.08
s2 - 2:00.04
s3 - 1:57.70 & 1:57.93
s4 - 1:57.24 & 1:57.38
The VBox tells me my "ideal lap" ie the best of all sectors is a 1:57.17.
No idea if this is fast or not to be honest, but it felt on the limit and I have no idea where the next second is comming from.
Then it pissed it down and that was loads of fun. It meant learning the whole circuit again and pushing things to the limit once more... I managed to do a 2:15.80, before finding a 'more interesting line' through crainer curves.
So do you think will I be at the back again?
The quickest Clio this last weekend in the msvr all comers race was 1:53 but I have no idea whether that was on slicks or not.I was at Donnington on Friday learning the circuit in preperation for the race and managed a 1:57.24 before it rained.
I got quicker each session with:
S1 - 2:10.08
s2 - 2:00.04
s3 - 1:57.70 & 1:57.93
s4 - 1:57.24 & 1:57.38
The VBox tells me my "ideal lap" ie the best of all sectors is a 1:57.17.
No idea if this is fast or not to be honest, but it felt on the limit and I have no idea where the next second is comming from.
Then it pissed it down and that was loads of fun. It meant learning the whole circuit again and pushing things to the limit once more... I managed to do a 2:15.80, before finding a 'more interesting line' through crainer curves.
So do you think will I be at the back again?
8 cars had fastest race laps slower than your 1:57, and it's a similar mix of cars to that that I would expect in Roadsports.
Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 22 September 12:45
andy97 said:
The quickest Clio this last weekend in the msvr all comers race was 1:53 but I have no idea whether that was on slicks or not.
8 cars had fastest race laps slower than your 1:57, and it's a similar mix of cars to that that I would expect in Roadsports.
Thanks for that. Just looking at the times now and I can see they were all much faster. Seems like I have much more speed to find . 8 cars had fastest race laps slower than your 1:57, and it's a similar mix of cars to that that I would expect in Roadsports.
Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 22 September 12:45
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