My first ever car crash!

My first ever car crash!

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JamesCater18

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38 posts

103 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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Well, I've only been driving cars for 5 years, but having passed my ARDS test and dived in with Formula Vee this year, I guess it was inevitable!

First off, I probably should say that I've been meaning to do a big introduction on here (like the couple of excellent ones here already!) charting my 'Rookie on a budget' racing dreams, but forum permissions were preventing me from posting anything at all. Admin have now sorted this, so this post is sort-of a test, before I type a 5000 word essay and find I still can't post.

So, in my 3rd ever race weekend at Donington, I found my pace pretty fast, but cocked up in qualifying and failed to translate that into a grid position. Charging up through the field in race 1, I was too far back to lunge up the inside, and instead committed to run deep and cut back to pass the car ahead on the exit, only he messed up himself and still hadn't turned in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ47_WHmKQ

Totally my fault, of course, and thankfully I didn't damage the car in front. I bent mine a bit, and it feels like a gorilla has tried to rip off my left hand and arm where I kept hold of the steering wheel as our tyres met...

Thanks for letting me in the forum - I'll be needing this place to get my kicks over the off-season!!

BertBert

19,038 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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JamesCater18 said:
only he messed up himself and still hadn't turned in...
Er? I can only see one messer-upper in that vid! We all make cockups and know the racing driver book of excuses backwards, forwards and inside out, but how was that a mess up by the guy in front?

AWRacing

1,712 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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What Bert said ^^

Don't beat yourself up over it though, I did something similar when I raced in Vees albeit mine was due to the throttle sticking open going into the hairpin at Cadwell (short circuit).


ctsdave

872 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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As has been said above, dont worry about it! Mistakes happen all part of the learning curve! Biggest one I've had is on youtube http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DIDLWii7bqU spun on fluid! But I have made other mistakes skme you get away with some you don't, all part of motorsport!!

Ao long as you enjoy the highs and lows its a wortthwhile hobby!


This is what it looked like after, sadly.more damage underneath and to the engine! All fixed though!

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Yeah TBF that looks like you just went in too hot, and were never going to make the corner, easy to do at redgate it always feels like it should be a faster entry than it is. But this is a learning game so just get back in the seat and cary on :-)


we all hit the wall at some point


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79SV2VjYgro

77racing

3,346 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Did s0me one say "I hit the wall" .........................................................


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUnJc4lE3oQ

JamesCater18

Original Poster:

38 posts

103 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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BertBert said:
Er? I can only see one messer-upper in that vid! We all make cockups and know the racing driver book of excuses backwards, forwards and inside out, but how was that a mess up by the guy in front?
Meh, he said he had brake problems - he should have turned in way before that, and as I'd committed to going deep I couldn't go to the inside before I'd closed right up.

Doesn't matter what he was doing, as I still shouldn't have hit him, though! (and I still would have made the corner! :P )

So I wasn't intending to use an excuse...

77racing

3,346 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Thing to remember there is, always go and have a chat and apologise if you got it wrong with the other driver. It never is a great feeling but a "sorry I got it wrong" goes a long way for the other driver

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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JamesCater18 said:
BertBert said:
Er? I can only see one messer-upper in that vid! We all make cockups and know the racing driver book of excuses backwards, forwards and inside out, but how was that a mess up by the guy in front?
Meh, he said he had brake problems - he should have turned in way before that, and as I'd committed to going deep I couldn't go to the inside before I'd closed right up.

Doesn't matter what he was doing, as I still shouldn't have hit him, though! (and I still would have made the corner! :P )

So I wasn't intending to use an excuse...
But he didn't and you just drove straight into him. No big deal - but not really anybody else to blame.

Hopefully not too much to fix - looks like a fun formula.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Watched the video. You braked too late. Can't see fault in the other driver.

I have done that a lot, not in racing but general life (same rules). Came up with excuses. The sooner you err on the side of personal responsibility without even bringing up someones involvement you will manage better.

Could have been worse, so take that aside. Pretty small one, probably looked worse than it was.

on to the next race eh :-)

JamesCater18

Original Poster:

38 posts

103 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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77racing said:
Thing to remember there is, always go and have a chat and apologise if you got it wrong with the other driver. It never is a great feeling but a "sorry I got it wrong" goes a long way for the other driver
Yes - I jumped out and went straight to him, fully expecting him to go mental, but he was fine about it, and no damage so no problems.

The thing is, as I was hitting him I was remembering he'd put his car up for sale, and was "just doing one last race"...

So lucky! biggrin

Unfortunately, he wasn't as lucky in race 2, where he came together with another car on the exit of Redgate...

JamesCater18

Original Poster:

38 posts

103 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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xjay1337 said:
Watched the video. You braked too late. Can't see fault in the other driver.

I have done that a lot, not in racing but general life (same rules). Came up with excuses. The sooner you err on the side of personal responsibility without even bringing up someones involvement you will manage better.

Could have been worse, so take that aside. Pretty small one, probably looked worse than it was.

on to the next race eh :-)
Well, yeah, I've tried to be as clear as I can that IT WAS MY FAULT.

And I was braking about 6ft earlier than normal to try my move - I was just coming up behind him too fast. It's still blowing my mind how fast you can get a Vee into a corner, and I'm nowhere near the limit, yet!

BertBert

19,038 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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This is turning into that scene from Airplane where everyone lines up to slap the hysterical woman!!

Onwards and upwards OP. Until the next whoops moment biggrin

Bert

fieldl

1,320 posts

231 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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Not my first but certainly my biggest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7W2Lnn__Y
From the pit lane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwz5ooyU2-U

Car needs a bit of a rebuild.......

TwoLeadFeet

139 posts

159 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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Qualifying at a damp Cadwell, luckily just missing another car already in the tyre barrier. Managed to get out for race 1

http://youtu.be/4ZBKRIEpiJ4

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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JamesCater18 said:
xjay1337 said:
Watched the video. You braked too late. Can't see fault in the other driver.

I have done that a lot, not in racing but general life (same rules). Came up with excuses. The sooner you err on the side of personal responsibility without even bringing up someones involvement you will manage better.

Could have been worse, so take that aside. Pretty small one, probably looked worse than it was.

on to the next race eh :-)
Well, yeah, I've tried to be as clear as I can that IT WAS MY FAULT.

And I was braking about 6ft earlier than normal to try my move - I was just coming up behind him too fast. It's still blowing my mind how fast you can get a Vee into a corner, and I'm nowhere near the limit, yet!
Locking up the front right didn't help.

JamesCater18

Original Poster:

38 posts

103 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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johnfm said:
Locking up the front right didn't help.
That's where the rookie mistake came in - I saw I was closing in on him a bit quickly and panic braked a bit and locked that wheel... headache

Think I'll be going to the Doc's in the morning to get my wrist/arm checked out, too. I know you're supposed to let go of the wheel before you hit barriers and stuff, but surely if it's another car you just have to ride that sucker out and hope you avoi it? Guess I'll just have to not hit anyone in the future - so that's my BTCC dreams over!