Time Attack - classic / historic class

[Maulden7]

I am thinking about entering my 1965 S2 Lotus Elan in the above for 2016. The car is already prepared for production class MSA sprinting etc & I have a full race licence.

The organisers are very encouraging, but does anybody have any experience of this series / class, or any comments on Time Attack generally?

TIA

[djroadboy]

It appears they have a separate class for just about every car in Time Attack these days.

Surely it's just very expensive sprinting?

Dan

[coppice]

You will certainly confuse the fan base with an Elan as Time Attack is the only event I have attended recently where the crowd are mainly in their twenties . But that's a good thing as I hate being surrounded by miserable old gits talking about the good old days -just like I do .

[Startline Al]

I don't know if you read it but there was a good write up in the Autumn MSA magazine, the editor took part in the event at Oulton.
Have a look here, page 38.http://issuu.com/motorsportsassociation/docs/msa_autumn_2015
As regards "the same as sprinting" answer that pops up all the time, no it isn't You will find a separate set of regs in the 2016 Blue Book for TA.

Edited by Startline Al on Monday 16th November 10:07

[MyVTECGoesBwaaah]

coppice said:

You will certainly confuse the fan base with an Elan as Time Attack is the only event I have attended recently where the crowd are mainly in their twenties .

And a larger crowd than nearly all other club level meetings to.

[Maulden7]

Thanks for the comments chaps, & yes, I did read the report in the MSA mag, that's what sparked my interest & the reason why I contacted the organisers re this particular class.

As has been said, it's not "sprinting", & just seems that this series might be a bit more interesting?

Confusing the fan base ...... that's no bad thing ...... education that is!

If I do go for this I will run the Elan in the same spec etc as for sprinting (the car is basically like an early 26R under the skin & with circa 140bhp in a car weighing just over half a tonne goes pretty well)

[Startline Al]

Been good this year, pit lane walkabout from Brands

[Maulden7]

OMG .... still .... I can make a fool of myself in front of thousands just well as I can in front of a handful!

[Norfolkandchance]

I read the article in the MSA mag and it confused me - particularly the class structure. How does the class structure for historics work?

[benjj]

I'm also interested in seeing the class structure, entry regs etc for the Classic Time Attack groups. Please could you post them up?

I couldn't see anything on the TA website when I just had a look...

[Maulden7]

http://www.timeattack.co.uk/about-time-attack/

And scroll down past 6 pics, you'll come to the classes, hope that helps.

It would appear that "historics" are then a sub group within the classes shown.

Edited by Maulden7 on Monday 16th November 14:42

[JohnS]

Classic & Retro have the own class when it comes to points and trophies. Last season they shared the track with the Clubman and Clubman+ cars, with the Club spec cars following in their own session and finally the Pro spec cars.

Last season's winner in Classic & Retro was a modified Sierra XR4x4:



The winner in the Pro class for Classic & Retro was Lloyd's Wright's RSR Escort, which was only a few seconds slower than the absolute fastest cars at most circuits.

[Norfolkandchance]

Maulden7 said:

http://www.timeattack.co.uk/about-time-attack/

And scroll down past 6 pics, you'll come to the classes, hope that helps.

It would appear that "historics" are then a sub group within the classes shown.

Edited by Maulden7 on Monday 16th November 14:42

Yes, I've seen those, but where does it explain what you can do within each class. What confused me in the MSA article was that if you did some stuff to you car you might get moved up a class. Traditionally technical regs are very specific about what can and can't be done. It may be that time attack doesn't really have rules, but then I can't see how you can really have classes.

[Trev450]

I looked at TA last year and TBH I found the class structures and specific requirements very vague.

[Startline Al]

Norfolkandchance said:

Yes, I've seen those, but where does it explain what you can do within each class. What confused me in the MSA article was that if you did some stuff to you car you might get moved up a class. Traditionally technical regs are very specific about what can and can't be done. It may be that time attack doesn't really have rules, but then I can't see how you can really have classes.

Speak to Mike... http://www.timeattack.co.uk/contact/ click on the scrutineer and he'll advise you.

Edited by Startline Al on Monday 16th November 17:09

[BaronVonVaderham]

I don't really get Time attack, it seems to entail all of the expense and hassle of proper racing but without the race - you just do a qualifying session and then call it a day?

[Startline Al]

It's pretty simple really, you get to push yourself and your car to the limit in several sessions during the day in pursuit of your ultimate lap time, it's an open pit lane (in class) and part of the strategy is finding room for a clear lap. while other drivers are doing exactly the same.
It also produces cars like this....... https://youtu.be/z4FIW0xMsho

Edited by Startline Al on Monday 16th November 17:45

[denisb]

I watched the last meeting this year at Rockingham.

Apart from one idiot I was really impressed with what i saw. For me it was near race levels of driving but with near sprint levels of safety.

Was very interested.

[randy]

BaronVonVaderham said:

I don't really get Time attack, it seems to entail all of the expense and hassle of proper racing but without the race - you just do a qualifying session and then call it a day?

Think of it as a track day that you can win. Pretty much sums it up.

[stevieturbo]

randy said:

BaronVonVaderham said:

I don't really get Time attack, it seems to entail all of the expense and hassle of proper racing but without the race - you just do a qualifying session and then call it a day?

Think of it as a track day that you can win. Pretty much sums it up.

And more importantly, one where the chances of some numpty crashing into you is very slim. With side by side racing that likelihood is very high.

It may be more exciting, but I know if someone crashed into me and destroyed my car....I'd be more than a little pissed off and I'm sure if roles were reversed, they'd be the same.