Is this ban enough ?

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skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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carl_w said:
....the guy's career is ruined.
By his actions he has ruined it himself.

But, unfortunately, if he has money then there will be a team willing to take him on.

indigorallye

555 posts

225 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Is there footage of his actions anywhere?

Fonz

361 posts

184 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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The British Pastor Maldonado? Oh dear.

Kawasicki

13,082 posts

235 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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skeggysteve said:
By his actions he has ruined it himself.

But, unfortunately, if he has money then there will be a team willing to take him on.
Money talks...and repairs "careers"

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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carl_w said:
kind of agree, but 3 years and the guy's career is ruined.
Career? What career? He's just a lucky little tt with a rich daddy paying for his expensive HOBBY.

Career... PMSL.

mike80

2,248 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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VX Foxy said:
Career? What career? He's just a lucky little tt with a rich daddy paying for his expensive HOBBY.

Career... PMSL.
Well, Red Bull were giving him some backing. I hear some drivers have had quite good careers with them!

lanan

814 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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It wasn't a hobby, It was a career.
Unfortunately, that has now gone up in smoke due to his lack of maturity and self control.

He is a seriously talented kid and together with the available budget was likely to go a long way.

What he did was outrageous and a lengthy ban was inevitable and as most agree, deserved.

Hopefully this penalty will make the other young hot heads think twice before acting.......But somehow I doubt it.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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mike80 said:
Well, Red Bull were giving him some backing.
Any details on that?

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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lanan said:
It wasn't a hobby, It was a career.
He was a paid driver in MSA Formula? Yeah, right-oh! It's a hobby.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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VX Foxy said:
He was a paid driver in MSA Formula? Yeah, right-oh! It's a hobby.
I don't know the guy so can't comment on him, but I don't think the transition from paying driver to paid driver necessarily means it's just a hobby before that point.

Bert

Soul Reaver

499 posts

192 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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What on earth was he thinking at the time! Such a young fool eh.

FW18

243 posts

141 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Kawasicki said:
skeggysteve said:
By his actions he has ruined it himself.

But, unfortunately, if he has money then there will be a team willing to take him on.
Money talks...and repairs "careers"
As proven by Pastor Maldonado. Life ban from racing at Monaco was overturned when a huge fine was paid by the Venezuelan government.

carl_w

9,179 posts

258 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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PW said:
Racer.com republish various autosport articles, so you can save a few views reading them there.
Yes, I noticed. That's quite handy.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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BertBert said:
I don't know the guy so can't comment on him, but I don't think the transition from paying driver to paid driver necessarily means it's just a hobby before that point.
Bert
Well, in my opinion (with a smattering of dictionary definition) 'career' implies some sort of 'profession', and that in turn implies a paid occupation.

I'm sure there are those who would argue that the the likes of Maldanado and Chilton are professional but to my mind if those paying for their 'career' are related, then that does not constitute a profession.

coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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It doesn't matter a hoot who pays for somebody's drive- sponsor, dad, team or AN Other. If you can drive you can drive. And plenty of brilliant drivers were lucky enough to have family money to start them off - Moss and Hailwood didn't turn out too bad..

lanan

814 posts

228 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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I don't think that 5% of the GP2 grid are paid.....But they are still career drivers

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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lanan said:
I don't think that 5% of the GP2 grid are paid.....But they are still career drivers
I'm with him!

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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yes The definition of amateur/hobbyist and professional is usually blurred in motorsport because most drivers at least partly fund themselves until they're at the very highest levels. It's still a career for many drivers, even if they 100% fund themselves (or Dad does!), because they may attract an increasing percentage of funding as they progress up the ladder and their aim will no doubt to eventually be entirely paid for what they do.

tapkaJohnD

1,941 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Professional?
"Lewis Hamilton crashes $1.5M supercar Pagani Zonda through tiredness after "heavy partying" ".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/34806219
McLaren kept him on a short leash all his career there. Mercedes aren't.
The first duty of a professional is self discipline, which Ticktum failed on the track.
And Hamilton has failed off.
Looks like he's is relying on talent and not professionalism, and he'll soon run out at this rate.
John

coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Oh FFS - multi millionaire world champion racing driver with the world at his feet has a minor shunt - thank God one of them shows some human traits. 'Keep on a tighter leash ' - so they can all spout the sort of corporate drivel which comes out of most drivers' mouths ? Spare me.

By the way ,what should LH be doing when he's at home in Monaco? Sleeping ? Ironing ?Studying self improvement books ? We should be told