Is this ban enough ?
Discussion
Some Gump said:
Well I hope he crashes (alone), and the marshalls show him the contempt he showed them.
Why any team would want this kid driving for them, I don't know. That safety car incident is totally inexcusable.
Why any team would want this kid driving for them, I don't know. That safety car incident is totally inexcusable.
Most of the teams will take the risk if the kid brings enough £££££; unfortunate perhaps but always been that way. Desperate Dan Clarke springs to mind; he destroyed cars quicker than the team could build them, though he never used them as an assault weapon, as I remember.
The thing is these kids are boosted by their sycophantic supporters and begin to think they're something special. They never are.
A young racer lost his head & there are all these lifetime ban calls get a grip, what he did was out of order & dangerous but no one was injured the guy was banned he's served it obviously he has enough talent for a team to take a chance on him.
So I say judge him on his actions now not on what he has already been punished for.
So I say judge him on his actions now not on what he has already been punished for.
I think losing your rag in the heat of the battle is one thing, but deciding to drive a whole lap ignoring all flags is clearly planned revenge. The danger factor is increased by the fact they were in an open wheel formula.
As someone said earlier in the thread, it would be interesting to see the consequences if someone was seriously injured, as i'd argue given his actions were premeditated.
As someone said earlier in the thread, it would be interesting to see the consequences if someone was seriously injured, as i'd argue given his actions were premeditated.
Agreed!
ZX10R NIN said:
Why's it not a shining example? The guy got banned, he served said ban then got himself back out there & showed enough talent/temperament for Red Bull to pick him up.
I for one am glad that he was judged on what he was doing on the track rather than past indiscretions.
I for one am glad that he was judged on what he was doing on the track rather than past indiscretions.
Isn't it odd that so many mourn the passing of hell raiser drivers like marshal thumping piss artist James Hunt ,all round bad lad Innes Ireland, uber prankster Gerhard Berger and 'they shall not pass ' Clay Reggazoni ? We complain about the anodyne , corporate b
ks sprouting, whingeing for the bad boy to be penalised driver and yet..here we get a driver who breaks a few rules, behaves like a prat, allows his emotions to get the better of him - in short behaves lie a teenage racing driver and a bloody self righteous lynch mob forms up, baying for the daft lad's blood. What the hell's the matter with people ?
Good luck to him, and thank God somebody still behaves badly -I am sure he's learned from the mistakes we all make at that age.
ks sprouting, whingeing for the bad boy to be penalised driver and yet..here we get a driver who breaks a few rules, behaves like a prat, allows his emotions to get the better of him - in short behaves lie a teenage racing driver and a bloody self righteous lynch mob forms up, baying for the daft lad's blood. What the hell's the matter with people ? Good luck to him, and thank God somebody still behaves badly -I am sure he's learned from the mistakes we all make at that age.
ZX10R NIN said:
Why's it not a shining example? The guy got banned, he served said ban then got himself back out there & showed enough talent/temperament for Red Bull to pick him up.
I for one am glad that he was judged on what he was doing on the track rather than past indiscretions.
Welcome to PH Conservative law making - turn every offense into an effective life sentence.I for one am glad that he was judged on what he was doing on the track rather than past indiscretions.
To be honest what he did - in my opinion - goes beyond a youthful hot headed mistake. It showed a pretty deep character flaw.
However, he has done his time - and if he has demonstrated its all behind him, back into the fold, IMHO.
Vocal Minority said:
To be honest what he did - in my opinion - goes beyond a youthful hot headed mistake. It showed a pretty deep character flaw.
The highlighted bit is my problem.Banging wheels down a straight a few times in the heat of the moment? I can understand that.
Having a "lively discussion" in the pits afterwards which got out of hand? Again, I could understand that.
But this guy decided to zoom past everyone under caution regardless of what was going on with the explicit goal of taking his rival out of the race by driving his car into him. That kind of boiling rage and lack of judgement is something you are built with, age tempers it but it doesn't go away. Next time it'll be blocking the pit box, or crossing a live track to have a punch up, or something else.
To take a non racing example to put this into a bit of context.... this is the difference between shouting/hand waving/use of horn when someone cuts you up that stops after a few seconds and the guy following you home/stopping in the road for a "handy chat".
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