Nankang NS2R as a wet tyre option
Discussion
geeks said:
Want to see how good an NS2R is in the wet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
Is tyre choice free there, or is everyone on same tyres ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
Mr lol1
which of the cars in the pic you put up is yours? I'm assuming the left one with the M3 bumper as the areo package on the right one puts it into NM hence Im in NM with the supertouring front splitter and rear wing.
An whats the spec 3.0, 3.2 etc?
I'm not racing till brands unfortunatly, but i'll be coming down to SStone as a spectator.
which of the cars in the pic you put up is yours? I'm assuming the left one with the M3 bumper as the areo package on the right one puts it into NM hence Im in NM with the supertouring front splitter and rear wing.
An whats the spec 3.0, 3.2 etc?
I'm not racing till brands unfortunatly, but i'll be coming down to SStone as a spectator.
geeks said:
Want to see how good an NS2R is in the wet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
What compound are being used please?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
stevieturbo said:
geeks said:
Want to see how good an NS2R is in the wet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
Is tyre choice free there, or is everyone on same tyres ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg-vt4ezn0 (lad here uses hand controls, he is amazing!)
Suffice to say we run a grid of 50 odd cars on them and they love them in the wet!
Have a look here, skip to 10:50 there will also be onboards of the front runners
https://vimeo.com/138082365
I challenge anyone who says that it isn't a great wet tyre!
Tommo Two said:
Mr lol1
which of the cars in the pic you put up is yours? I'm assuming the left one with the M3 bumper as the areo package on the right one puts it into NM hence Im in NM with the supertouring front splitter and rear wing.
An whats the spec 3.0, 3.2 etc?
I'm not racing till brands unfortunatly, but i'll be coming down to SStone as a spectator.
You are correct the one on the left and its a 3.2. Still managed to beat the other car twice at the last round as well. which of the cars in the pic you put up is yours? I'm assuming the left one with the M3 bumper as the areo package on the right one puts it into NM hence Im in NM with the supertouring front splitter and rear wing.
An whats the spec 3.0, 3.2 etc?
I'm not racing till brands unfortunatly, but i'll be coming down to SStone as a spectator.
I might have found a set of 100 compound close to me so could possibly have them for Sunday if I need them.
Pop over and see us at Snet if your there on the Sunday.
xjay1337 said:
Is it?
I have not seen any tyre reviews comparing the Rainsport 3 to Goodyear Eagle F1 Asy2/3 , Michelin Pilot Sport 2/3/4 or Super Sport.
The only one I have seen was this one -
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-AMS-Perf...
Where it scored a wet test score of 8.6 which was 4 out of 9, and it scored behind
Conti Sport 5
Dunlop Sport Blueresponse
Bridgestone Turanza T001
Hardly known for their outright performance. The Sport 5 Conti would also be suitable as a light track day tyre.
The rainsport fan club is because people who have historically had Nankang NS2 or WANLI or TRIANGLE tyres have been able to get a "branded" tyre for not much more.
Often young-ish people who have heavily tuned cars
Unfortunately regarding RACE use I am not sure what tyres are allowed / certified by your specific race team so can't advise too much. I would avoid Nankang NS2Rs in the wet personally unless you're on lightweight car like an MX5 or something. The heavier the car the more it needs that extra grip.
I hadn't seen that review, and it would apear i'm wrong, they are not the best performing wet tyre. I'm not sure how you would quantify it but is best (or certainly very good) value for money with regards to wet performance a suitable description?I have not seen any tyre reviews comparing the Rainsport 3 to Goodyear Eagle F1 Asy2/3 , Michelin Pilot Sport 2/3/4 or Super Sport.
The only one I have seen was this one -
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2015-AMS-Perf...
Where it scored a wet test score of 8.6 which was 4 out of 9, and it scored behind
Conti Sport 5
Dunlop Sport Blueresponse
Bridgestone Turanza T001
Hardly known for their outright performance. The Sport 5 Conti would also be suitable as a light track day tyre.
The rainsport fan club is because people who have historically had Nankang NS2 or WANLI or TRIANGLE tyres have been able to get a "branded" tyre for not much more.
Often young-ish people who have heavily tuned cars
Unfortunately regarding RACE use I am not sure what tyres are allowed / certified by your specific race team so can't advise too much. I would avoid Nankang NS2Rs in the wet personally unless you're on lightweight car like an MX5 or something. The heavier the car the more it needs that extra grip.
Edited by xjay1337 on Thursday 7th April 11:06
The only people I have spoken to (i have read various stuff on here about the Rainsports) but actually spoken to have been people that use them in race & trackday aplications. Typically on E36 M3s / 328s, porsche 928 etc. And they are big fans of them in the wet. They all have a dry tyre they use aswell, and only use the rainsports in the wet.
As i use a very hard dry tyre, and the Rainsports are wet tyres i'm looking for something that does wet to damp to 20mins of dry line. Its not going to be up there with rainsports in torential rain, but should give me a wider scope of useability. From what i've seen and read the NS2Rs in a 100 or 120 compound sound good and they are good value, so I'm gunna stick a set of 120s on the daily (same as race car E36 328) and see how it handles wet damp and dry roads.
lol1 said:
You are correct the one on the left and its a 3.2. Still managed to beat the other car twice at the last round as well.
I might have found a set of 100 compound close to me so could possibly have them for Sunday if I need them.
Pop over and see us at Snet if your there on the Sunday.
Let me know how u get on with the 100 compound in the wet, if it rains. what tyres have u used in the past wet & dry on track?I might have found a set of 100 compound close to me so could possibly have them for Sunday if I need them.
Pop over and see us at Snet if your there on the Sunday.
Wont be up at Snett over the weekend, I've spent the last 2 weekends at Silverstone, and SWMBO list of things for me to do nolonger has racing at the top of it
Tommo Two said:
lol1 said:
You are correct the one on the left and its a 3.2. Still managed to beat the other car twice at the last round as well.
I might have found a set of 100 compound close to me so could possibly have them for Sunday if I need them.
Pop over and see us at Snet if your there on the Sunday.
Let me know how u get on with the 100 compound in the wet, if it rains. what tyres have u used in the past wet & dry on track?I might have found a set of 100 compound close to me so could possibly have them for Sunday if I need them.
Pop over and see us at Snet if your there on the Sunday.
Wont be up at Snett over the weekend, I've spent the last 2 weekends at Silverstone, and SWMBO list of things for me to do nolonger has racing at the top of it
The only other track/road tyre I have used is the Hankook V12 when I was racing in the MX5 series and I wasn't particularly keen on them in the wet to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY35ykEfyg
Link to the on-board from Easter weekends 2nd race and only the 1st weekend I've set foot in an M3 in 6 years. I was class C and won the class overall and came 5th overall in the Race.
Edited by lol1 on Thursday 7th April 11:49
I haven't used the RS3 on track, so they may be good in that respect.
I do agree they offer a very good performance for a lower price but it is not to be confused with comparing them to a "proper" tyre... :P
The problem / issue with the NS2-R when you have a "DAMP" track. In proper full wet conditions they're really good but then it's that horrible greasy surface they are, in my opinion, absolutely terrible.
Hence why I suggested a more road based tyre like a Pilot Sport 4 or Super Sport, because they will behave well in full wet but they will have better grip in the damp.
If you are having a drying line then I reckon the 120 or 100 NS2R may be good
I do agree they offer a very good performance for a lower price but it is not to be confused with comparing them to a "proper" tyre... :P
The problem / issue with the NS2-R when you have a "DAMP" track. In proper full wet conditions they're really good but then it's that horrible greasy surface they are, in my opinion, absolutely terrible.
Hence why I suggested a more road based tyre like a Pilot Sport 4 or Super Sport, because they will behave well in full wet but they will have better grip in the damp.
If you are having a drying line then I reckon the 120 or 100 NS2R may be good
lol1 said:
On my old M3 it was only Dunlop slicks and wets. Have tried the old R888 a few seasons ago which I really liked and have the new R888R for this season as a dry/damp tyre.
The only other track/road tyre I have used is the Hankook V12 when I was racing in the MX5 series and I wasn't particularly keen on them in the wet to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY35ykEfyg
Link to the on-board from Easter weekends 2nd race and only the 1st weekend I've set foot in an M3 in 6 years. I was class C and won the class overall and came 5th overall in the Race.
Nice vid, those escorts a pretty quick!! Although the yellow one had a mirror failure in lap 1, turn 2! Is this your 1st season in CSCC? Its my first season, i did 1 in the taster class last year and really liked it.The only other track/road tyre I have used is the Hankook V12 when I was racing in the MX5 series and I wasn't particularly keen on them in the wet to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY35ykEfyg
Link to the on-board from Easter weekends 2nd race and only the 1st weekend I've set foot in an M3 in 6 years. I was class C and won the class overall and came 5th overall in the Race.
Edited by lol1 on Thursday 7th April 11:49
xjay1337 said:
I haven't used the RS3 on track, so they may be good in that respect.
I do agree they offer a very good performance for a lower price but it is not to be confused with comparing them to a "proper" tyre... :P
The problem / issue with the NS2-R when you have a "DAMP" track. In proper full wet conditions they're really good but then it's that horrible greasy surface they are, in my opinion, absolutely terrible.
Hence why I suggested a more road based tyre like a Pilot Sport 4 or Super Sport, because they will behave well in full wet but they will have better grip in the damp.
If you are having a drying line then I reckon the 120 or 100 NS2R may be good
I'll see how i get on with the 120 compound in the damp on the road and choose accordingly. will feedback results I do agree they offer a very good performance for a lower price but it is not to be confused with comparing them to a "proper" tyre... :P
The problem / issue with the NS2-R when you have a "DAMP" track. In proper full wet conditions they're really good but then it's that horrible greasy surface they are, in my opinion, absolutely terrible.
Hence why I suggested a more road based tyre like a Pilot Sport 4 or Super Sport, because they will behave well in full wet but they will have better grip in the damp.
If you are having a drying line then I reckon the 120 or 100 NS2R may be good
Tommo Two said:
lol1 said:
On my old M3 it was only Dunlop slicks and wets. Have tried the old R888 a few seasons ago which I really liked and have the new R888R for this season as a dry/damp tyre.
The only other track/road tyre I have used is the Hankook V12 when I was racing in the MX5 series and I wasn't particularly keen on them in the wet to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY35ykEfyg
Link to the on-board from Easter weekends 2nd race and only the 1st weekend I've set foot in an M3 in 6 years. I was class C and won the class overall and came 5th overall in the Race.
Nice vid, those escorts a pretty quick!! Although the yellow one had a mirror failure in lap 1, turn 2! Is this your 1st season in CSCC? Its my first season, i did 1 in the taster class last year and really liked it.The only other track/road tyre I have used is the Hankook V12 when I was racing in the MX5 series and I wasn't particularly keen on them in the wet to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY35ykEfyg
Link to the on-board from Easter weekends 2nd race and only the 1st weekend I've set foot in an M3 in 6 years. I was class C and won the class overall and came 5th overall in the Race.
Edited by lol1 on Thursday 7th April 11:49
I did a few races with a mate of mine back in 2014 where I shared his BMW 5 series 3.5 (he's also in Modern classic with his car this year). I really like the idea of 40 min races and being class A which gives me a chance of overall win as opposed to class win. Got to get to grips with the M3 and tyres first though as at Brands I was struggling to match the times from 6 years ago and I know for a fact that I am no where near as confidant in it as I used to be with my old one. Wont take long though to get back in the groove.
stevieturbo said:
I was referring to Holden's comment about GiTi or whatever they are.
Whilst they arent on the list, I recently switched from 888's to Westlake Sport RS ( drifters like them ) and have been more than pleasantly surprised how good they are, at least for straight line traction. havent tried them hard elsewhere yet.
And they're a fraction of the price of most other stuff.
Despite being fully road legal and E-marked....the plonkers at MSA dont have them on their lists so as with many other fully road legal tyres...they dont allow people to use them
They have half decent tread but no idea how they'd be in hard wet use.
http://westlaketiremotorsportseurope.com/
Then you need to get the plonkers at Westlake to submit them to the MSA for approval.Whilst they arent on the list, I recently switched from 888's to Westlake Sport RS ( drifters like them ) and have been more than pleasantly surprised how good they are, at least for straight line traction. havent tried them hard elsewhere yet.
And they're a fraction of the price of most other stuff.
Despite being fully road legal and E-marked....the plonkers at MSA dont have them on their lists so as with many other fully road legal tyres...they dont allow people to use them
They have half decent tread but no idea how they'd be in hard wet use.
http://westlaketiremotorsportseurope.com/
You will however find that most Drift tyres are pretty useless race tyres. The last tyres we tested that were "brilliant" Drift tyres and fawned over by their American Motorsport arm were slower over 20 minutes than their very budget road tyres.
The NS-2R in the competition compound is about as decent a compromise as you are going to get to go from wet to dry conditions (or the other way around) It works well on light cars but heavy cars can require a lot of steering input.
The issue you have however is that from the 1st April both the 120 and 100/80 compounds are deleted unless for championship purposes. In the case of the 225 45 17 COMP there are 18 left in stock as I write this.
The issue you have however is that from the 1st April both the 120 and 100/80 compounds are deleted unless for championship purposes. In the case of the 225 45 17 COMP there are 18 left in stock as I write this.
Nickjd said:
Then you need to get the plonkers at Westlake to submit them to the MSA for approval.
You will however find that most Drift tyres are pretty useless race tyres. The last tyres we tested that were "brilliant" Drift tyres and fawned over by their American Motorsport arm were slower over 20 minutes than their very budget road tyres.
They arent drift tyres....not actually sure what a drift tyre is ?You will however find that most Drift tyres are pretty useless race tyres. The last tyres we tested that were "brilliant" Drift tyres and fawned over by their American Motorsport arm were slower over 20 minutes than their very budget road tyres.
I just said some drifters use them and I had tried them and certainly in a straight line they offer better traction than the 888's I've used. Which almost seems even stranger for a tire with a 240 treadwear rating !
Kinkell said:
Avon CR28 demolished the competition last weekend in full wet conditions by 1.5 secs at Knockhill. Zero under steer, and pulled well with no spin out the corners. Lapped me for the first time so proof absolute for lightweight cars on this tyre.
Looks like only 13", 14" and 15" sizes and 1B status might only apply to pre-1990 vehicles ?stevieturbo said:
Kinkell said:
Avon CR28 demolished the competition last weekend in full wet conditions by 1.5 secs at Knockhill. Zero under steer, and pulled well with no spin out the corners. Lapped me for the first time so proof absolute for lightweight cars on this tyre.
Looks like only 13", 14" and 15" sizes and 1B status might only apply to pre-1990 vehicles ?Nickjd said:
The NS-2R in the competition compound is about as decent a compromise as you are going to get to go from wet to dry conditions (or the other way around) It works well on light cars but heavy cars can require a lot of steering input.
The issue you have however is that from the 1st April both the 120 and 100/80 compounds are deleted unless for championship purposes. In the case of the 225 45 17 COMP there are 18 left in stock as I write this.
So you have to prove you are in a championship to buy them? or do you have to go through a championship supplier?The issue you have however is that from the 1st April both the 120 and 100/80 compounds are deleted unless for championship purposes. In the case of the 225 45 17 COMP there are 18 left in stock as I write this.
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