Nankang NS2R as a wet tyre option

[lol1]

Tommo Two said:

Nickjd said:

The NS-2R in the competition compound is about as decent a compromise as you are going to get to go from wet to dry conditions (or the other way around) It works well on light cars but heavy cars can require a lot of steering input.

The issue you have however is that from the 1st April both the 120 and 100/80 compounds are deleted unless for championship purposes. In the case of the 225 45 17 COMP there are 18 left in stock as I write this.

So you have to prove you are in a championship to buy them? or do you have to go through a championship supplier?

I bought mine from a standard tyre shop. Told him what I wanted, he phoned Nankang and I had them the next day.

[TommyHalliwell]

We have used both the 180 and 100 compound tyres on a 1,000kg saloon car, in both wet and dry conditions. The 180's are very, very durable and possibly not the ideal tyre in the wet as they do take some time to get heat into. Although we found them very predictable. We would highly recommend the 100 compound tyre for the wet and dry. The new AR-1 is proving to be an extremely good dry tyre and we will provide feedback against a Dunlop Direzza DZ03 soon.

Tom

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TommyHalliwell said:

We have used both the 180 and 100 compound tyres on a 1,000kg saloon car, in both wet and dry conditions. The 180's are very, very durable and possibly not the ideal tyre in the wet as they do take some time to get heat into. Although we found them very predictable. We would highly recommend the 100 compound tyre for the wet and dry. The new AR-1 is proving to be an extremely good dry tyre and we will provide feedback against a Dunlop Direzza DZ03 soon.

Tom

Still not used my 100 compound but its good to hear some positive feed back.

I do like the look of the AR-1 and very well priced. Does it come in different compound?

[Nickjd]

lol1 said:

I bought mine from a standard tyre shop. Told him what I wanted, he phoned Nankang and I had them the next day.

They will only be imported if there is a championship, or similar, using them. They are no longer a "regular" supply item.

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I Phoned Nankang UK and asked if they had stock, which he did and they sent them out to the garage.

[TommyHalliwell]

I am pretty sure the AR-1 is only in one compound. I think it is slightly softer than the 100 compound, and with the reduced tread pattern should prove to be a good tyre.

If any one is struggling for supply of Nankang tyres please give me a shout, we have good links to them.

Tom

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TommyHalliwell said:

I am pretty sure the AR-1 is only in one compound. I think it is slightly softer than the 100 compound, and with the reduced tread pattern should prove to be a good tyre.

If any one is struggling for supply of Nankang tyres please give me a shout, we have good links to them.

Tom

AR-1 treadwear is meant to be 80. Same as some of the "soft" NS-2R compounds..

[Oilchange]

Only go up to 265 on the 18s. Shame, I need 285. They say there's going to be more sizes, will this include mine?

[lol1]

I only used the Nankang once in the wet at Snetterton last season and they were awful.

Has anyone had any experience of the R888R from last season in the wet?

[geeks]

lol1 said:

I only used the Nankang once in the wet at Snetterton last season and they were awful.

Has anyone had any experience of the R888R from last season in the wet?

Which compound? Did you scrub them in, in the dry? Or fresh boots onto a wet track? Did you have the right pressures?

If you can discount all of the above then maybe you are expecting too much of a tyre in the wet?

[Tommo Two]

Forgot about this thread!

I went with a set of NS2Rs in the end for wet use, softest compound they do, cant remember the number.

I found them very good, the grip from cold, did very well in a V wet race at Spa, started 48th up to 35th

bit of a poor vid, was very steamy in the car!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvMoNB5i8s

Used them again at Croft, wet start but dry line by the end of the race, again good grip especially through JC Esses and Barcroft, and on the brakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_asqMgKUYA

Had good fun chasing a Green E36, you can see the difference in grip levels on braking and high speed corners in the last 2 laps from about 16 mins in.

They didn't overheat or get to torn up either by the dry laps at the end. Will defiantly buy again, for wet use.

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geeks said:

Which compound? Did you scrub them in, in the dry? Or fresh boots onto a wet track? Did you have the right pressures?

If you can discount all of the above then maybe you are expecting too much of a tyre in the wet?

It was their 100 compound and I had scrubbed them in on a dry track. I cant remember the tyre pressure at the moment but as it was the first time I had used them in the damp/wet it was a bit hit and miss I guess.

Was thinking of selling them and trying something else.

Edited by lol1 on Wednesday 25th January 14:08

[geeks]

lol1 said:

geeks said:

Which compound? Did you scrub them in, in the dry? Or fresh boots onto a wet track? Did you have the right pressures?

If you can discount all of the above then maybe you are expecting too much of a tyre in the wet?

It was their 100 compound and I had scrubbed them in on a dry track. I cant remember the tyre pressure at the moment but as it was the first time I had used them in the damp/wet it was a bit hit and miss I guess.

Was thinking of selling them and trying something else.

Edited by lol1 on Wednesday 25th January 14:08

Fair one, 180 compound is what we use, they clear water alot better owing to a stiffer tread!

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geeks said:

Fair one, 180 compound is what we use, they clear water alot better owing to a stiffer tread!

What tyre pressures did you use on them?

[geeks]

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

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geeks said:

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

That's hot temp I presume?

[geeks]

lol1 said:

geeks said:

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

That's hot temp I presume?

No cold, it's seems odd I know but trust me its correct, well at least it is for the 180 compound and car we are using (1150kg tin top) which is harder than the 100 you are using. What did you start the 100 at?

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geeks said:

lol1 said:

geeks said:

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

That's hot temp I presume?

No cold, it's seems odd I know but trust me its correct, well at least it is for the 180 compound and car we are using (1150kg tin top) which is harder than the 100 you are using. What did you start the 100 at?

I will have a look later but from memory around 27-28 in a tintop around the same weight.

[geeks]

lol1 said:

geeks said:

lol1 said:

geeks said:

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

That's hot temp I presume?

No cold, it's seems odd I know but trust me its correct, well at least it is for the 180 compound and car we are using (1150kg tin top) which is harder than the 100 you are using. What did you start the 100 at?

I will have a look later but from memory around 27-28 in a tintop around the same weight.

What size? I have a spare set of 195/50/15's you can try on the 180 compound if you like? I would try again at the higher pressures. I know of one guy that basically balloons them in the wet.. I don't as i find they go off too quick that way but he swears by it, although haven driven on them like that the initial 10 minute bite is better, he is also twice as fast as me so that helps lol!

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geeks said:

lol1 said:

geeks said:

lol1 said:

geeks said:

Anywhere from 30 - 34 depending on the circuit and temp

That's hot temp I presume?

No cold, it's seems odd I know but trust me its correct, well at least it is for the 180 compound and car we are using (1150kg tin top) which is harder than the 100 you are using. What did you start the 100 at?

I will have a look later but from memory around 27-28 in a tintop around the same weight.

What size? I have a spare set of 195/50/15's you can try on the 180 compound if you like? I would try again at the higher pressures. I know of one guy that basically balloons them in the wet.. I don't as i find they go off too quick that way but he swears by it, although haven driven on them like that the initial 10 minute bite is better, he is also twice as fast as me so that helps lol!

Thanks for the offer but I'm on 235/40/17. Maybe I will give them another go at higher pressure then although I am tempted to sell them and buy some Toyo R1R's.