HANS query

[majordad]

Dr Gitlin said:

88racing said:

My co-drivers ran into this for the Creventic 24 Hours of Silverstone this year. The FIA PDF is here:

http://www.fia.com/technical-list-ndeg25-recognise...

...but I note that in the latest MSA News there was a comment regarding HANS holograms.

What's particularly odd is that SAH2010 helmets are not allowed to be used with a HANS etc by the FIA even though the H in SAH specifically refers to the fact that they were homologated by Snell for use with frontal head restraints!

http://www.ogracing.com/blog/2010/10/what-is-the-s...

Not quite true, read the fia link above. SAH2010 Sticker plus the FIA Sticker is suitable for Hans and meets current FIA Specs, I know as I use one. The later SAH2015 aparently failed the FIA test and is not acceptable.

[jeffw]

stevieturbo said:

Some friends have been using same helmet and hans for years...they have no sticker and it has never been mentioned to them.

Stevie

I would check your friends helmets (!). If they have been at a MSA event and run without a MSA sticker I would be very surprised as this is something the Scruts pick up on straight away. FHR do not require MSA stickers to be added.

[stevieturbo]

jeffw said:

Stevie

I would check your friends helmets (!). If they have been at a MSA event and run without a MSA sticker I would be very surprised as this is something the Scruts pick up on straight away. FHR do not require MSA stickers to be added.

They've been running for the last 4-5 years at least.

[jeffw]

Well, there is a requirement to have a sticker when a new helmet is first presented for scrutineering.

[Dave Brand]

jeffw said:

Well, there is a requirement to have a sticker when a new helmet is first presented for scrutineering.

The sticker is required for every subsequent occasion when it is presented for scrutineering. If a driver is involved in an incident where helmet damage is visible or suspected the sticker will be removed by the scrutineers & the helmet is no longer legal until re-inspected.

[stevieturbo]

jeffw said:

Well, there is a requirement to have a sticker when a new helmet is first presented for scrutineering.

Their helmets arent new, they've been using them for years too lol.

Mine was new though, forced purchase to replace a perfectly good and almost new helmet.

[jeffw]

Dave Brand said:

The sticker is required for every subsequent occasion when it is presented for scrutineering. If a driver is involved in an incident where helmet damage is visible or suspected the sticker will be removed by the scrutineers & the helmet is no longer legal until re-inspected.

I meant 'a sticker applied' to a new helmet.

[jeffw]

stevieturbo said:

Their helmets arent new, they've been using them for years too lol.

Mine was new though, forced purchase to replace a perfectly good and almost new helmet.

So the scrutineer did exactly what he is supposed to do in your case. As for your mates, I'm amazed that they are able to use a non-MSA stickered helmet on a MSA event as it is the one thing all the scrutineers seem to check.

[stevieturbo]

jeffw said:

So the scrutineer did exactly what he is supposed to do in your case. As for your mates, I'm amazed that they are able to use a non-MSA stickered helmet on a MSA event as it is the one thing all the scrutineers seem to check.

They checked the Snell stuff etc on the inside of the helmet of course on all of them

[BertBert]

nah, this isn't right. There is no way that you can use a non-stickered helmet at an MSA race meeting.

stevieturbo said:

They checked the Snell stuff etc on the inside of the helmet of course on all of them

[jeffw]

I agree, can't be correct.