Arrive and Drive 2017
Discussion
Hi everyone,
I'm after a bit of information if you would all be so kind - this is my first post so please bear with me!
Mysel and a frind are after some arrive and drive experiences after passing our test earlier this year and are looking at all our options but are well aware that there are some good and not so good places to start.
We have been given some excellent tutorageso far and hope this may continue with insight into the motorsport world but any advice would be very much welcome.
We are looking at two driver series and not top end costs and something where everyone races in a good, honest sportmanlike manner whist trying to do the best they can.... Is that aksing too much? We accept that as novices we will not necessarily be 'up front' but would equally not want to just be an observer.
Any help/advice would be much appreciated as we seek to embark into the motorsport world!
Thanks a lot
I'm after a bit of information if you would all be so kind - this is my first post so please bear with me!
Mysel and a frind are after some arrive and drive experiences after passing our test earlier this year and are looking at all our options but are well aware that there are some good and not so good places to start.
We have been given some excellent tutorageso far and hope this may continue with insight into the motorsport world but any advice would be very much welcome.
We are looking at two driver series and not top end costs and something where everyone races in a good, honest sportmanlike manner whist trying to do the best they can.... Is that aksing too much? We accept that as novices we will not necessarily be 'up front' but would equally not want to just be an observer.
Any help/advice would be much appreciated as we seek to embark into the motorsport world!
Thanks a lot
www.lotuscupuk.com - talk to Track Club, Datum, Matt Bentley Racing or Rob Boston Racing - all are brilliant and will be able to support you. 
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I noticed a company advertising arrive and drive in a Radical SR3rs in the Excool OSS championship.I do know how much it can cost to rent in the Radical Challenge championship or have a team run your car and this seemed extremely good value.
Radical -
You can share in both the SR1 cup and Radical challenge. You would have to call a few teams and see if they could do arrive and drive.I know Radical works do. I would say you would get a better shared drive experience in the Radical challenge championship though, simply because they have a team challenge class for 2 driver, x2 sprint races, one each driver, and then an endurance with pit stop for driver change all in one day. If you are novices, you would be shocked by the performance of a Radical.
I noticed a company advertising arrive and drive in a Radical SR3rs in the Excool OSS championship.I do know how much it can cost to rent in the Radical Challenge championship or have a team run your car and this seemed extremely good value.
Radical -
You can share in both the SR1 cup and Radical challenge. You would have to call a few teams and see if they could do arrive and drive.I know Radical works do. I would say you would get a better shared drive experience in the Radical challenge championship though, simply because they have a team challenge class for 2 driver, x2 sprint races, one each driver, and then an endurance with pit stop for driver change all in one day. If you are novices, you would be shocked by the performance of a Radical.
Dunlop Puma Cup have 40 minute races for 2 drivers: http://pumacup.com/ Contact the representative for details on cars for hire, likely to be very cost effective.
Also try BOSS Racing for Caterhams in the Magnificent Sevens, again 40 minute 2 driver: http://www.boss-racing.co.uk/
Lots of other options with the CSCC: www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
Also try BOSS Racing for Caterhams in the Magnificent Sevens, again 40 minute 2 driver: http://www.boss-racing.co.uk/
Lots of other options with the CSCC: www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk
Thanks everyone for all your help, really appreciated.
In answer to some of the questions;
- Yes we would like to do it together but possibly a car share over a weekend may be a more suitable alternative that a 40 min race however the idea of the 40min race is where we were heading.
- We have a budget of c£1,500 per race
- The Puma racing looks the kind of thing we were thinking (as does the Lotus albeit i think that maybe more money than we can afford)
Thanks a lot
In answer to some of the questions;
- Yes we would like to do it together but possibly a car share over a weekend may be a more suitable alternative that a 40 min race however the idea of the 40min race is where we were heading.
- We have a budget of c£1,500 per race
- The Puma racing looks the kind of thing we were thinking (as does the Lotus albeit i think that maybe more money than we can afford)
Thanks a lot
A couple of things:
You might be surprised how affordable single seaters are compared to other cars. I'd always dreamt of driving one and was surprised when I found out I could do so on an arrive and drive basis cheaper than a Caterham or a Radical. That was in an uncompetitive car, but unless you can afford new tyres for every round and other bits that'll always be the case anyway. The downsides are you need to be quite short and slim to fit, and of course they're generally more dangerous (less protection and you're going a lot faster).
Bear in mind any extras when looking at Arrive and Drive costs. For example most people/teams will expect you to buy your own tyres. I used to use do half seasons and ran what I considered to be the minimum option: two sets of slicks (one for testing and one for qual & races) and one set of wets for the year. A set of typical slicks is about £50-£100 secondhand with about 100km on them and around £800 new. In my Metro I used one set of list 1A tyres for a half season, wet and dry, and by doing that I was at the front of my class, so it was a lot cheaper.
You might be surprised how affordable single seaters are compared to other cars. I'd always dreamt of driving one and was surprised when I found out I could do so on an arrive and drive basis cheaper than a Caterham or a Radical. That was in an uncompetitive car, but unless you can afford new tyres for every round and other bits that'll always be the case anyway. The downsides are you need to be quite short and slim to fit, and of course they're generally more dangerous (less protection and you're going a lot faster).
Bear in mind any extras when looking at Arrive and Drive costs. For example most people/teams will expect you to buy your own tyres. I used to use do half seasons and ran what I considered to be the minimum option: two sets of slicks (one for testing and one for qual & races) and one set of wets for the year. A set of typical slicks is about £50-£100 secondhand with about 100km on them and around £800 new. In my Metro I used one set of list 1A tyres for a half season, wet and dry, and by doing that I was at the front of my class, so it was a lot cheaper.
Edited by RobM77 on Tuesday 22 November 20:08
Gc285 said:
Hey Bert, who ran you when you did Radical?
If you are looking at Radicals I would highly recommend Corinium Motorsport www.coriniummotorsport.co.ukThey have run a few cars over the years in 750mc and OSS.
smiles1 said:
If you are looking at Radicals I would highly recommend Corinium Motorsport www.coriniummotorsport.co.uk
They have run a few cars over the years in 750mc and OSS.
Another vote for Corinium Motorsport. They have run my SR3 in the Castle Combe Series this year and we are off to BRSCC OSS and possibly some 750 MC next year. Neil has his own SR3 which he could possibly do on an arrive and drive basis and with 3 races over a weekend with OSS, I'm pretty you won't go faster for less.They have run a few cars over the years in 750mc and OSS.
What? Is this the Neil Cox fan club? But yes I have been run by a few...
Corinium - Neil Cox
Lanan
Mansol Motorsport
Staffs uni
Raw Motorsport
For the OP a budget of 1500 per meeting doesn't go that far, certainly not to radical heights.
As someone else has said, single seaters are interesting. I've been doing ff2000 for a couple of years. My daughter has shared the car as there is normally more than one series to enter at an hscc weekend.
Bert
Corinium - Neil Cox
Lanan
Mansol Motorsport
Staffs uni
Raw Motorsport
For the OP a budget of 1500 per meeting doesn't go that far, certainly not to radical heights.
As someone else has said, single seaters are interesting. I've been doing ff2000 for a couple of years. My daughter has shared the car as there is normally more than one series to enter at an hscc weekend.
Bert
Sigmamark7 said:
I'm pretty you won't go faster for less.
I'm fairly sure arrive and drive in a single seater would be much cheaper than a Radical and many are faster. I'm not saying they're better (Radicals are amazing!) but it pays to keep things in perspective. I used to pay about half the OP's budget per event to race a Formula Renault run by a good team with a transporter etc.Thank you all for your comments, really appreciated.
Our preference would be towards the hatch car racing such as Clio, Mini, 750MC Roadsports and the like and the Puma racing looks just the type of thing we're after.
Cost wise, our understanding is that this type of racing will be more in line with our budget but also the single seater racing is perhaps a bridge too far for our 1st season. Once we get into it then it maybe that type of racing is the next stage.
Any other help and comments really appreciated.
Best regards
Our preference would be towards the hatch car racing such as Clio, Mini, 750MC Roadsports and the like and the Puma racing looks just the type of thing we're after.
Cost wise, our understanding is that this type of racing will be more in line with our budget but also the single seater racing is perhaps a bridge too far for our 1st season. Once we get into it then it maybe that type of racing is the next stage.
Any other help and comments really appreciated.
Best regards
That sounds like a good way forwards. Hatches are a great way to start racing, because the cars are friendlier to drive and also I think it pays huge dividends later on to learn your craft in a slower car. Some of the racing is also the best you'll find anywhere - the best racing I've had was in the Metro Cup, where I started racing 15 years ago.Robjburnham said:
Thank you all for your comments, really appreciated.
Our preference would be towards the hatch car racing such as Clio, Mini, 750MC Roadsports and the like and the Puma racing looks just the type of thing we're after.
Cost wise, our understanding is that this type of racing will be more in line with our budget but also the single seater racing is perhaps a bridge too far for our 1st season. Once we get into it then it maybe that type of racing is the next stage.
Any other help and comments really appreciated.
Best regards
Personally, every time I'm in a 750mc paddock it seems people are spending more money to go club racing. The club enduro's peaked my interest but some of the budgets at the front should be in britcar imo. CSCC races + TDC look a lot more budget to me. Our preference would be towards the hatch car racing such as Clio, Mini, 750MC Roadsports and the like and the Puma racing looks just the type of thing we're after.
Cost wise, our understanding is that this type of racing will be more in line with our budget but also the single seater racing is perhaps a bridge too far for our 1st season. Once we get into it then it maybe that type of racing is the next stage.
Any other help and comments really appreciated.
Best regards
I want to go out and get a 5k prepped car, share a 40m - 2hr race with a mate and have a laugh for a weekend and race some similarly budgeted cars, there's gotta be a market for that.
RobM77 said:
I used to pay about half the OP's budget per event to race a Formula Renault run by a good team with a transporter etc.
I bet you didn't 
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