Cheapest single-make series?
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I have to agree with 750 being a good club. We have raced in the 116 Trophy for the last two years. With arrive and drive available if you can’t stretch to a whole season in your own car.
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qwertea said:
I'm surprised more series do not control how many tyres one can use during a season though, surely that would help keep costs down.
At a club level its been tried many times and no one has really found a way of making it sensible/work. What generally happens is you put some regs in place, then some (usually) quite intelligent people with engineering backgrounds then look at whats in place and how to bypass it. Stamps on tyres? Not a problem just take a mould.
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After that you also have to consider cost to the competitor and the organisers. Then time in scrutineering etc etc it all adds up for what is very little benefit.
"Very little benefit" is all relative. With quality race 1b/1c tyres costing £1000 a set for a lot of cars and some people replacing them every couple of meetings it makes a massive difference to those trying to compete on a budget.
If people were caught bypassing tyre rules in the ways given they should be banned for life IMO. That's not club racing in the slightest.
If people were caught bypassing tyre rules in the ways given they should be banned for life IMO. That's not club racing in the slightest.
From what I've seen in being close at hand in 24 years, aim for a junior-ish championship in its early days with a well written set of regulations.
Lots of championships start off with good intentions and set out to be cheap one-make affairs and then….
Someone arrives with a much bigger pot of cash than everyone else, and the cheapness slowly fades away. I've seen this happen so often, and it used to make me mad, but I've grown to accept it as “it’s just the way it is.”
I suppose I am on the other side of the fence as an eligibility scrutineer, but I hear of budgets that are genuinely eye watering, and it is obvious a great deal of money is spent. In the last WEEK alone, I know of 3 (front of grid spec) historic MGBs sold for £130K. An XK engine at £40K. Another (thought to be illegal) XK engine at £110K (least said – soonest mended). A dad that spent £60K on last season’s low-level-ish karting
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I've said it on here before, but the clubs like to have regulations that are nice and simple and easy to read, this is partly because hardly anyone reads them properly. Except as noted, those dastardly engineering types who know how to work their way round them – like me- because I have done.
The regulation author tends to (but not always) copy and paste someone else’s wording and place it into their efforts. This can lead to all sorts of disasters and technical conflicts in the regs.
When the regs state an “OE camshaft must be used” and not even mention what the standard lift is on it – what hope do we have?
As for turbos…….
Lots of championships start off with good intentions and set out to be cheap one-make affairs and then….
Someone arrives with a much bigger pot of cash than everyone else, and the cheapness slowly fades away. I've seen this happen so often, and it used to make me mad, but I've grown to accept it as “it’s just the way it is.”
I suppose I am on the other side of the fence as an eligibility scrutineer, but I hear of budgets that are genuinely eye watering, and it is obvious a great deal of money is spent. In the last WEEK alone, I know of 3 (front of grid spec) historic MGBs sold for £130K. An XK engine at £40K. Another (thought to be illegal) XK engine at £110K (least said – soonest mended). A dad that spent £60K on last season’s low-level-ish karting
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I've said it on here before, but the clubs like to have regulations that are nice and simple and easy to read, this is partly because hardly anyone reads them properly. Except as noted, those dastardly engineering types who know how to work their way round them – like me- because I have done.
The regulation author tends to (but not always) copy and paste someone else’s wording and place it into their efforts. This can lead to all sorts of disasters and technical conflicts in the regs.
When the regs state an “OE camshaft must be used” and not even mention what the standard lift is on it – what hope do we have?
As for turbos…….
I'll vote for the City Car Cup series run by the BRSCC. It's where I started as a complete novice, I had never been to any of the tracks let alone raced before! It is geared up to look after new comers as the series coordinator is very hands on and helpful. The people in the paddock are a good bunch and very good atmosphere. All the cars are evenly matched and it's all down to driver and setups!
Cost wise you can pick a car up for around £4k for something half about. They are cheap to fix and very easy to maintain.
If your not interested in test days, it's literally race entry, 20 litres of fuel max over the weekend and away you go!
Cost wise you can pick a car up for around £4k for something half about. They are cheap to fix and very easy to maintain.
If your not interested in test days, it's literally race entry, 20 litres of fuel max over the weekend and away you go!
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