BRSCC Porsche Championship
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I agree with the above.
I think it is a shame that this has happened but disagree that it will fail.
I have enjoyed the start of the series so far and there seems to be some good guys building new cars.
If you look at the website there is now 7 boxster drivers and 15 924 drivers registered for the championship (thats more than last year) and I was also looking on the online BRSCC booking page and there are already 14 cars registered for Snetterton with 5 or 6 guys still to register who have raced in the other curcuits so far!!
The fact is that some people don't like change, others do, that is just human nature!
I for one like how things have changed and i am looking forward to the rest of the season.
We have been told we have got garages at the next race!!
We have not had that since I have been racing in the series, so as far as I am concerned if it was not going anywhere then we would not be getting this kind of help with our paddock.
We have always felt that we were put at the back of paddock and grids in most races!!
To me, this is a sign that things are getting better and personalities aside, maybe anyone who doesn't know the series should come down and have a look at us.
I think it would be a shame if people make decisions based on the stuff that gets put on a forum.
I think the guys running our series should maybe not get involved in confronting people on here.
Jay and Nick!! you just need to keep doing what you are doing to stop the bad press, you don't need to defend yourselves.
If the championship carries on growing as it has so far then you will not need to say anything to anyone as you will have defended yourselves by making this work.
Ignore negative comments and just concentrate on doing the job you are doing.
Martin!
I understand your feelings but I can promise you that if you came to the next race, you will feel very different.
There were 2 guys at Oulton who have raced in big money racing and they seemed to really enjoy themselves.
The company was called brookspeed racing.
Maybe you could talk to them as they know quite alot about racing, probably the best kind of person to ask what they think about it rather than just giving up.
It would be a shame after spending lots of time building a car.
Really looking forward to Snetterton.
see you all there.
I think it is a shame that this has happened but disagree that it will fail.
I have enjoyed the start of the series so far and there seems to be some good guys building new cars.
If you look at the website there is now 7 boxster drivers and 15 924 drivers registered for the championship (thats more than last year) and I was also looking on the online BRSCC booking page and there are already 14 cars registered for Snetterton with 5 or 6 guys still to register who have raced in the other curcuits so far!!
The fact is that some people don't like change, others do, that is just human nature!
I for one like how things have changed and i am looking forward to the rest of the season.
We have been told we have got garages at the next race!!
We have not had that since I have been racing in the series, so as far as I am concerned if it was not going anywhere then we would not be getting this kind of help with our paddock.
We have always felt that we were put at the back of paddock and grids in most races!!
To me, this is a sign that things are getting better and personalities aside, maybe anyone who doesn't know the series should come down and have a look at us.
I think it would be a shame if people make decisions based on the stuff that gets put on a forum.
I think the guys running our series should maybe not get involved in confronting people on here.
Jay and Nick!! you just need to keep doing what you are doing to stop the bad press, you don't need to defend yourselves.
If the championship carries on growing as it has so far then you will not need to say anything to anyone as you will have defended yourselves by making this work.
Ignore negative comments and just concentrate on doing the job you are doing.
Martin!
I understand your feelings but I can promise you that if you came to the next race, you will feel very different.
There were 2 guys at Oulton who have raced in big money racing and they seemed to really enjoy themselves.
The company was called brookspeed racing.
Maybe you could talk to them as they know quite alot about racing, probably the best kind of person to ask what they think about it rather than just giving up.
It would be a shame after spending lots of time building a car.
Really looking forward to Snetterton.
see you all there.
Edited by 924 racer on Thursday 20th May 20:56
Edited by 924 racer on Thursday 20th May 21:01
Most of the complaints seem to hark back to last year and the organisation we had then. This year has seen a massive step forward thanks to the efforts of Nick, Jay, Drew, Richard and others.
It seems ridiculous that anybody would pull out of the championship purely because of what was said on a forum, afer having gone to all the trouble and expense of building a car.
I plead with you guys to come along to one of our rounds and see for yourself how relaxed, well-organised and enjoyable the racing is.
To answer the question about why does the Boxster have the edge over the MX5. Well the cars aren't in the same league. Even our 924s are quicker than the MX5s. Eventually (hopefully) there will be enough Boxsters to form their own series. We'll see fast, close racing in identical cars, obviously more expensive than MX5s but nowhere near the likes of Brit Car or the Carrera Cup in terms of running costs.
A certain car preparer on this forum seems to have a bee in his bonnet about something, but the driver who actually races the car is a great guy and we all want him to stay.
Grid sizes continue to grow so it can only get better.
Roll on Snetterton!
It seems ridiculous that anybody would pull out of the championship purely because of what was said on a forum, afer having gone to all the trouble and expense of building a car.
I plead with you guys to come along to one of our rounds and see for yourself how relaxed, well-organised and enjoyable the racing is.
To answer the question about why does the Boxster have the edge over the MX5. Well the cars aren't in the same league. Even our 924s are quicker than the MX5s. Eventually (hopefully) there will be enough Boxsters to form their own series. We'll see fast, close racing in identical cars, obviously more expensive than MX5s but nowhere near the likes of Brit Car or the Carrera Cup in terms of running costs.
A certain car preparer on this forum seems to have a bee in his bonnet about something, but the driver who actually races the car is a great guy and we all want him to stay.
Grid sizes continue to grow so it can only get better.
Roll on Snetterton!
Edited by Team924 on Friday 21st May 12:57
Hi All
I feel I must reply to some of the very negative comments about the porsche championship that have been posted on this forum
I joined the series towards the end of last season and was welcomed in with open arms with help in preparing my race car from absolutely everyone.
Having witnessed the negative affect on moral during last season and seen the great strides forward the series has taken in a few very short months, I am very excited and happy to be part of this great, friendly and welcoming series.
Please do not listen to the negative comments posted on this forum by people who have never even attended any of our meetings and come and see for yourself what a great series it is rapidly growing into
I personally, am here to race in the porsche championship for many years to come (the wife ain't that happy, but she is replacable!!)
paul
I feel I must reply to some of the very negative comments about the porsche championship that have been posted on this forum
I joined the series towards the end of last season and was welcomed in with open arms with help in preparing my race car from absolutely everyone.
Having witnessed the negative affect on moral during last season and seen the great strides forward the series has taken in a few very short months, I am very excited and happy to be part of this great, friendly and welcoming series.
Please do not listen to the negative comments posted on this forum by people who have never even attended any of our meetings and come and see for yourself what a great series it is rapidly growing into
I personally, am here to race in the porsche championship for many years to come (the wife ain't that happy, but she is replacable!!)
paul
Team924 said:
To answer the question about why does the Boxster have the edge over the MX5. Well the cars aren't in the same league. Even our 924s are quicker than the MX5s. Eventually (hopefully) there will be enough Boxsters to form their own series. We'll see fast, close racing in identical cars, obviously more expensive than MX5s but nowhere near the likes of Brit Car or the Carrera Cup in terms of running costs.
You made me look at the times! Wasn't just talking about MX5's, but it does seem that a boxster and a MX5 are exactly the same around Cadwell and Oulton (to the second). 924's lagging a bit.I understand some people's desire to race Porsches and you'll get entries for that, but for the average club racer I'm still struggling to see how the concept is more attractive than other similar series. It certainly can't be cheaper. I'd like to see it work (and therefore support the 924s), but I can't see the obvious selling point. Is the "porsche" factor sufficient??
Dan Friel said:
Team924 said:
To answer the question about why does the Boxster have the edge over the MX5. Well the cars aren't in the same league. Even our 924s are quicker than the MX5s. Eventually (hopefully) there will be enough Boxsters to form their own series. We'll see fast, close racing in identical cars, obviously more expensive than MX5s but nowhere near the likes of Brit Car or the Carrera Cup in terms of running costs.
You made me look at the times! Wasn't just talking about MX5's, but it does seem that a boxster and a MX5 are exactly the same around Cadwell and Oulton (to the second). 924's lagging a bit.I understand some people's desire to race Porsches and you'll get entries for that, but for the average club racer I'm still struggling to see how the concept is more attractive than other similar series. It certainly can't be cheaper. I'd like to see it work (and therefore support the 924s), but I can't see the obvious selling point. Is the "porsche" factor sufficient??
I'm talking about race times, comparing similar track conditions. Have at look at Tsl-timing.com
http://www.tsl-timing.com/mgcc/2010/101853.pdf
http://www.tsl-timing.com/brscc/2010/101931.pdf
http://www.tsl-timing.com/mgcc/2010/101453.pdf
http://www.tsl-timing.com/mgcc/2009/92253.pdf
Edited by Team924 on Friday 21st May 17:00
Edited by Team924 on Friday 21st May 17:09
Dan Friel said:
You made me look at the times! Wasn't just talking about MX5's, but it does seem that a boxster and a MX5 are exactly the same around Cadwell and Oulton (to the second). 924's lagging a bit.
?
As much as i would like to think my little mx5's as quick as a Boxster, it's more likely that the times at the moment are down to current drivers and the cars being in the early stages of development. In theory they should be on a par with the 911's and 968's in Porsche Club (1:56's at Oulton) going on power to weight, possibly a bit quicker having more power and more sophisticated suspension. When you look into how much a competitive 968/964/993 costs to build ,a Boxster *should* cost less.?
Dan Friel said:
Only looked at the Oulton qually times, things got much quicker in the race! But at Cadwell things seem to be much more even. About 1m 45sec for both series. Conditions could have been different though, and Boxsters should get quicker over time.
'Cos it was wet during qually! Yes I just looked at Cadwell times and the MX5 is impressive around there - must really suit the tight twisty circuits.the drag from the mx5's open top is ridiculous, so long fast straights do them no favours (brilliant for getting a tow though)
is this really as fast a the Boxters will go? hmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/user/hughesracingteam#p/u/7...
is this really as fast a the Boxters will go? hmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/user/hughesracingteam#p/u/7...
I looked at the fastest lap around Oulton with the Boxster, 924 and MX5's.
The times were 1,58 for the Boxster, 2,06 for the 924 and 2,08 for the MX5's.
In answer to Dan about the Boxsters and MX5's being the same in timings, it is not the same thing.
Whilst MX5's will always be a cheaper alternative to the Boxster it will also be the slower option as well.
But I don't think you can compare the 2 cars as they are very different.
I think the MX5's are a great car to race as they are well balanced and light and affordable to start racing.
With our Championship, we are racing the 924,s which are slightly quicker but much cheaper to build and the idea of the Boxsters should be for us to grow into if we want to go faster!!!
They are both good championships just different.
The times were 1,58 for the Boxster, 2,06 for the 924 and 2,08 for the MX5's.
In answer to Dan about the Boxsters and MX5's being the same in timings, it is not the same thing.
Whilst MX5's will always be a cheaper alternative to the Boxster it will also be the slower option as well.
But I don't think you can compare the 2 cars as they are very different.
I think the MX5's are a great car to race as they are well balanced and light and affordable to start racing.
With our Championship, we are racing the 924,s which are slightly quicker but much cheaper to build and the idea of the Boxsters should be for us to grow into if we want to go faster!!!
They are both good championships just different.
Hi BMWGuy.
Totally the opposite.
We all raced at Snetterton and had the largest grid we have had in three years!!
The PDA have organised a new section of the race center because we could not fit everone in!!
Have a look at the website www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk and you can see the standings after the weekend.
It was brilliant. the racing was great the weather was interesting and the evenings barby and disco was quality!!!
Its is just getting better all the time.
Great job guys!!!!
Totally the opposite.
We all raced at Snetterton and had the largest grid we have had in three years!!
The PDA have organised a new section of the race center because we could not fit everone in!!
Have a look at the website www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk and you can see the standings after the weekend.
It was brilliant. the racing was great the weather was interesting and the evenings barby and disco was quality!!!
Its is just getting better all the time.
Great job guys!!!!
Edited by 924 racer on Monday 21st June 20:49
Hi BMW guy.
Are you looking to move to a new series by any chance??
i noticed that you were looking at the MX5's and obviously you have been on here as well??
If you are interested in a cost effctive series we do offer both!!
We are racing in mallory on the 18th of July.
we should have 26 cars on the grid.
If your interested let me know and I will sort you a couple of free tickets to come along and see what we are actually about!!
If its of interest to you let me know.
Regards
Jay
Are you looking to move to a new series by any chance??
i noticed that you were looking at the MX5's and obviously you have been on here as well??
If you are interested in a cost effctive series we do offer both!!
We are racing in mallory on the 18th of July.
we should have 26 cars on the grid.
If your interested let me know and I will sort you a couple of free tickets to come along and see what we are actually about!!
If its of interest to you let me know.
Regards
Jay
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