RE: Ultima World Record!

RE: Ultima World Record!

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RichardD

3,560 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Dinkel - how about an Ultima with a TVR Speed 12 engine ?

Anyway, this reinforces the fact that the Ultima is the daddy of performance cars.

Caterham are going to have to supercharge or nitrous the R500 Evo to get the record back!

I think that calling an Ultima a "Supercar" is a huge insult as they are not overpriced, overcomplicated and overweight like "proper" supercars


dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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johnfelstead said:

dinkel said:


Could UK provide a decent lump to make this record all British?



A wildcat 6 litre Rover V8 mated to a hewland DG300 should be capable of matching that, so yes, a fully UK sourced car could be built to take the record.


4.8 Litre Twin Turbo Project Engine should do the job . . .

www.roverv8engine.co.uk/index3.htm

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Of course, i had my NA head on

That particular engine was installed in the MGX land speed record car driven by Andy Green.

loveice

648 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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don't forget where did Rover get its V8 from! in fact it's a Buick V8, which was also from GM.

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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loveice said:
don't forget where did Rover get its V8 from! in fact it's a Buick V8, which was also from GM.


Where have you been? That was sooo long ago . . . This is a different engine compared to the Buick . . . Am I right? It's not 3,5 for starters . . .

Lotusacbc

2,591 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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0-100 in 5.9 seconds!! DAMN THATS JUST SICKLY QUICK!! wheres the WOW emoticon when you need it

:wow: ?

loveice

648 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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ye, u r right. but still if gm haven't told buick v8 to rover, the one u r talking about would never exist. anyway, i must agree with RichardD, if u really want an all british record, tvr's engine should be the first choice. but not the v12, though.(just too big for ultima) maybe, a supercharged speed six?

RichardD

3,560 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Ultima Factory said:
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This was an official verified test.
Full data sheet from Datron will be released shortly.
Will a repeat performance happen do you think for Autocar next year?

G Man

4,053 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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If autocar call we'll be there.
The car is going to do a quarter mile but first 0-200-0

G Man

>> Edited by G Man on Thursday 19th August 15:51

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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How about your stomach? Do you eat anything before you floor 'n brake? Do you fix ur neck to prevent snapping? I'm serious . . .

DanH

12,287 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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G Man said:
If autocar call we'll be there.
The car is going doing a quarter mile but first 0-200-0

G Man


Who pays when/if the drivetrain gets lunched?

G Man

4,053 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Dinkel

Just a spot of dutch courage ...

Sorry could not resist.

G Man

gilese

33 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Reminds me of 2 things; mates who took me out in their highly modified kit cars and why I fitted ABS to mine :-)

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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G Man said:
Dinkel

Just a spot of dutch courage ...

Sorry could not resist.

G Man


Guinness is good for you!

Afterwards please . . .

Serious, you must get heavy G-Force on ur body! Even for a G Man this must be pretty heavy stuff . . . Mars bar?

kzrd

35 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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That is seriously fast. It makes the Ultima GTR the only proper sized car to beat the McLaren F1 0-100mph-0.And no traction control or ABS to aid the driver. Just a thoroughly sorted well designed product.
Fantastic stuff well done Ultima.

adrianmugridge

9,711 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Christ on a bike !!

I did 0-100 in 10.2 at Bruntingthrope last month in my Sport350 and I was pleased as punch with that ! But back to zero again in the same time, staggering !!!

Adrian
Esprit Sport350
www.adrianmugridge.co.uk

kzrd

35 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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0-100mph-0 times

Ultima GTR 10.3 secs
Caterham R500 10.7
Suzuki GSX-R100011.0 motorbike
McLaren F1 11.5
Pagini Zonda 11.8
Radical SR3 12.6
Noble M12 13.8
Lamborghini Murcielago 13.9


Looks even better when listed!

G Man

4,053 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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Have to say the rear video of the run the last second when the flames come out of the exhaust, this is the reason we owner Ultimas, it's just outrageous ..

bluesatin

3,114 posts

272 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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GMan

Come to thenext Bruntingthorpe (VMAx) You get a lot better flames when braking from top speed and then putting the poer down!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th August 2004
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The wildcat 6 litre V8 is a completely new block casting retaining the external dimensions of the Rover V8, the head castings are also unique being a clean sheet of paper design, so you could say it has no Buick based components and is 100% British, although the normal Rover V8 block has been through so many redesigns it's far removed from the original Buick item anyway. Of course it depends how far you want to take this, there are very few cars if any with components sourced from just one country.

It would be interesting to see if a higher power turbo engine would actually be better than a lower power NA in this aplication, the MGX engine probably wouldnt be because it has a relatively high rpm range where power is higher than in NA form. It would probably work better for this with smaller turbo's just upping power by a couple of hundred BHP rather than the 450BHP extra that was produced for that aplication. The problem with adding the turbo's is the extra weight of the turbo's and intercoolers, this is where a big capacity NA V8 really holds its own, being light and easy to package with a great flat torque curve to play with and no heat management issues associated with turbos.

Supercharging would be a nice solution for this type of record attempt.