New LT1 engine

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UltimaPanthera

17 posts

112 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Threat resurrection!

Yesterday at SEMA 2014 in Las Vegas, GM presented the long anticipated crate engine version of its Corvette Stingray 2014 LT1 engine:
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines...
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-engines/lt1/
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/nor...

At 460 hp and 11000$ (w/o tax & shipping) it is not exactly cheap; however with its direct injection it might still be - for us Central Europeans - the new (& only?) hope of getting a naturally aspirated / adequately powered V8 Ultima GTR through EURO 6+ emissions, TÜV, et al. regulations...

What's your take on it? Anyone tempted? Factory assessment?

UltimaCH

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3,155 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Thanks for the update.

I am certainly interested in this new generation engine and the options it has to offer, specially the new emission standards it has to offer. Just need some gurus to get the LT1 to fit and work in the Ultima.

corvettedave

274 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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when does EURO 6+ emissions kick in?

UltimaCH

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3,155 posts

188 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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corvettedave said:
when does EURO 6+ emissions kick in?
EURO 6 emission norms are applied for passenger vehicles since September 1, 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_sta...

corvettedave

274 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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UltimaCH said:
EURO 6 emission norms are applied for passenger vehicles since September 1, 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_sta...
thanks for info, so is it going to be hard to pass or impossible with a old sbc? ls3 etc??

UltimaCH

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3,155 posts

188 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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I don't know what norms will be applied in the UK for a kit car since September 1st. It could be kit cars are a special breed with different norms on your "island". Reading posts for recent builds on this forum, LS3/7's pass emission tests. I know that here in Switzerland, once the custom duties have been paid on a vehicle or parts making up a vehicle, the date of payment determines which EURO norm will be applied. For example, my kit arrived and cleared customs in December 2012. In my case, the norm applied for registration will be EURO 5, even if the homologation/registration process takes place later in time.

UltimaPanthera

17 posts

112 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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corvettedave said:
thanks for info, so is it going to be hard to pass or impossible with a old sbc? ls3 etc??
ok, I am clearly not a registration expert, but I talked to one of the few car dealers in Germany that regularly sell Ultimas. He said that he hasn't heard of an Ultima new registration in months (all the ones he sells have been with initial registration prior to 2014).

I guess if one is willing to spend big bucks and get external help on board it could be done, but that would probably turn into a separate, less-fun project (tilt at the windmills of German TÜV) and thus somewhat kill the Ultima flair of "affordable / do it yourself". But if the LT1 passes the EURO 6 regulations maybe these headaches go away? Other countries admittedly have much less of such headaches - so be happy as long as it lasts :-)

UltimaFAN

107 posts

128 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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The Euro 6 norm seems to be more binding for the Diesel engines only. It is probably to reduce the amount of fine particle of cars which are specially small, a health issue and causing cancer!

The basic norms for petrol engines are the same than Euro 5, but it should be studied more in details.

UltimaCH

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3,155 posts

188 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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True, looking at the chart again for petrol engines, there is no difference in emissions for petrol engines from EURO 5 to 6, not unless the Swiss decide to be different... (hopefully not).

corvettedave

274 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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its all very confusing lol, end up on a q plate, good or bad?

Storer

5,024 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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As I didn't want all the hassle of IVA or emission legislation I went the route of buying a used car.
In the UK that enabled me to do almost anything I wanted to. The car just needed to pass a normal MOT when it was finished.
Does the same apply in Europe? Could you get away with changing an engine and still only have to achieve the original engines emissions?

I realise most want a new car but basically I ended up with a 'new' car. I stripped it back to a bare steel chassis and made changes that appealed to me.

Just a thought!


Paul

corvettedave

274 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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good plan, but ive already started building one, so see what comes

UltimaFAN

107 posts

128 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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For used car in Europe, the date of the first registration will set the rules, but it doesn't mean that registration in the other country will be quick, some further tests will probably be required by the registration office depending of the country.