Ford stalks (again)
Discussion
Hi all,
I'm back at figuring out how to wire in the ford stalks, and am struggling with the high beam. I have seen the Spatz solution (thank you Spatz) but this involves an extra relay, which I (perhaps naively) thought I could do away with and keep the standard arrangement.
I am a bit baffled by how the standard system works. The wiring diagrams (again huge thank you to the author of these -fantastic how you can toggle on and off each circuit) seem to show a two position light switch (position one being side lamps and number plate lights) position two being to the low high beam relay (presumably to switch on the dip beam).
Then there appears to be a single pole (forgive potentially incorrect terminology...) switch described as the head lamp flash button. Does this toggle the high beam on or off? I had assumed it was to flash (dodgy....) but if that's all it does then how do you permanently switch on the main beam?
Clearly there must be some kind of magic going on in the low/hi beam relay!
Any help gratefully appreciated.
I'm back at figuring out how to wire in the ford stalks, and am struggling with the high beam. I have seen the Spatz solution (thank you Spatz) but this involves an extra relay, which I (perhaps naively) thought I could do away with and keep the standard arrangement.
I am a bit baffled by how the standard system works. The wiring diagrams (again huge thank you to the author of these -fantastic how you can toggle on and off each circuit) seem to show a two position light switch (position one being side lamps and number plate lights) position two being to the low high beam relay (presumably to switch on the dip beam).
Then there appears to be a single pole (forgive potentially incorrect terminology...) switch described as the head lamp flash button. Does this toggle the high beam on or off? I had assumed it was to flash (dodgy....) but if that's all it does then how do you permanently switch on the main beam?
Clearly there must be some kind of magic going on in the low/hi beam relay!
Any help gratefully appreciated.
Pedders said:
.....Clearly there must be some kind of magic going on in the low/hi beam relay!.......
The relay is known as a latching relay.The single pole button sets the relay in one position. The next press of the button sets the relay in the other position.
This latching method does not work with stalk controls unless you forfeit the forward and backward selection of dip and high on the stalk. What you would do is wire the flash function of the stalk in place of the single pole button.
Steve
Finally got all the lights working properly with the ford stalks, using an alternative to the Spatz solution which does not involve an extra relay.
I couldn't get the main beam to work with the stalks and the latching relay - this is because the stalks give a 12v output when the main beam switch is on, either constantly or momentarily with the pull flash function, whereas the latch relay requires a ground connection to make it switch.
As such, when I connected the main beam switch outputs on the stalks to the standard loom wiring things got a little sparky!
The simple solution was to swap the latching relay for a standard one, so that the live feed switched the main beam lights on. The stalks now work properly - both flash function and continuously on. No additional relay was required.
I couldn't get the main beam to work with the stalks and the latching relay - this is because the stalks give a 12v output when the main beam switch is on, either constantly or momentarily with the pull flash function, whereas the latch relay requires a ground connection to make it switch.
As such, when I connected the main beam switch outputs on the stalks to the standard loom wiring things got a little sparky!
The simple solution was to swap the latching relay for a standard one, so that the live feed switched the main beam lights on. The stalks now work properly - both flash function and continuously on. No additional relay was required.
One (hopefully last) question related to the subject of the stalks, if that's ok?
Is the standard windscreen wiper switch a two or three position switch (in addition to off)?Looking at the wiring diagram, there is a live feed to the switch and then three different wires running from the switch to different terminals on the wiper motor, which suggests to me three position, but I'd appreciate someone letting me know for certain.
Many thanks all!
Is the standard windscreen wiper switch a two or three position switch (in addition to off)?Looking at the wiring diagram, there is a live feed to the switch and then three different wires running from the switch to different terminals on the wiper motor, which suggests to me three position, but I'd appreciate someone letting me know for certain.
Many thanks all!
Pedders said:
One (hopefully last) question related to the subject of the stalks, if that's ok?
Is the standard windscreen wiper switch a two or three position switch (in addition to off)?Looking at the wiring diagram, there is a live feed to the switch and then three different wires running from the switch to different terminals on the wiper motor, which suggests to me three position, but I'd appreciate someone letting me know for certain.
Many thanks all!
Mine is just 2 settings. No intermittant, just slow and fast. Just been to garage to double check...Is the standard windscreen wiper switch a two or three position switch (in addition to off)?Looking at the wiring diagram, there is a live feed to the switch and then three different wires running from the switch to different terminals on the wiper motor, which suggests to me three position, but I'd appreciate someone letting me know for certain.
Many thanks all!
Mark
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