Discussion
V8Dom said:
Hi Dom,Not had a chance to look for correct lag headlamps, most appear to be non-projector.
The units you have found on E-Bay I'd looked at and dismissed,
However at that price they might be worth a look for main beam application only, somewhat confusingly (subterfuge?) they advertise these as right hand drive units and require you to let them know if left hand drive is required.
From the beam pattern that they show in the photo it is clear to me that there is no dip cut off, therefore the same would be said regardless of left or right hand drive.
Not sure but it looks like there is some sort of sidelight built into the shrouds.
Reading into this a bit, the fact that you need to supply the HID kit for them is also a bit suss, the whole unit will get quite hot, I'm guessing they are sold without HID kit so if they melt it's "your" kit that has caused the problem.
Still nothing gained and all that
Hi guys I use the 90mm Hella lamps with the shutter in them for high and low beam on my hot rod. Very impressive unit, great pattern on low beam with the shutter down, high beam is amassing. Certainly the Hella's are not cheap, but as opposed to a no name Flea Bay item I'm thinking that might be some additional money well spent. By the way a 27 Ford Lakester with old time style housing and Hella projector beams might raise comments. ha ha , Lee
F.C. said:
V8Dom said:
Hi Dom,Not had a chance to look for correct lag headlamps, most appear to be non-projector.
The units you have found on E-Bay I'd looked at and dismissed,
However at that price they might be worth a look for main beam application only, somewhat confusingly (subterfuge?) they advertise these as right hand drive units and require you to let them know if left hand drive is required.
From the beam pattern that they show in the photo it is clear to me that there is no dip cut off, therefore the same would be said regardless of left or right hand drive.
Not sure but it looks like there is some sort of sidelight built into the shrouds.
Reading into this a bit, the fact that you need to supply the HID kit for them is also a bit suss, the whole unit will get quite hot, I'm guessing they are sold without HID kit so if they melt it's "your" kit that has caused the problem.
Still nothing gained and all that
dom
nice find on the ebay page. My understanding is that 'bi-xenon' means they do both dipped and full beam. The beam doesn't look too clear but it might be better than the std ultima unit? Might be worth a punt? does anyone know for sure the ultima unit diameter. I should of measured them when i had them out....
V8Dom said:
just come accross this
anyone have any thoughts
are ours the 70mm or 90mm units
looking at this.. the same unit has low and high... so we could have 3 main beams instead of two...
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php/default/aux...
I was contemplating quite the opposite... combine the Hella Bi-LEDs with the multifunction Bi-LEDs of Noldenanyone have any thoughts
are ours the 70mm or 90mm units
looking at this.. the same unit has low and high... so we could have 3 main beams instead of two...
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php/default/aux...
http://www.noldengmbh.com/en/company/news/48-new-9... (page 47 in their catalogue, link at the bottom of that page)
With that combination you should be able to cover pretty much all your lighting needs - with just two rather than four lamps per side.
Would look somewhat like the lights on this one...
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3843/img6449copie...
but be even TÜV(/IVA?)-compliant (if you take the upper two positions - the lower two lamp positions cannot be Hi/Lo beam in my country I believe, too close to the ground).
The traditionalists probably won't approve, but I for one think it looks good.
V8Dom said:
Any idea on price?
I found this...http://www.noldengmbh.de/docs/Preisliste_2014_VK.p...
page 12
confusionhunter said:
Ive just completed this exercise recently. I have to say the difference in the lighting is incredible,
I uprated the 2 full beams, 1 dipped to a xenon and the sidelight to a 5w LED. And fitted iridium indicator bulbs. Looks much better day and night!
I investigated the LEDS stuff but there isn't a common tried and tested product yet so I think its still in its infancy so I decided to leave it for a couple more years but results look promising! For my dipped projector lamps I fitted the H7 55w Xenon kit. Amazing. However I needed to add in a relay and do some additional wiring to make sure they stay on when the full beam is put on (std wiring cuts the power to the dipped when selecting full beam).
Check it out:
Also note the new spongue tape I used to improve the seal (and stop the inside of the lights getting dirty again). I also covered the seals once the covers were refitted with weatherproof unibond duck tape! I refuse to clean out the headlamps again!
From Memory and looking at the pics,The 2 full beams are different The lower one is H1 and the upper is H7. I bought these for the full beams (and the H1 equivalent).
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005ZSUNL8?psc=...
I found the product name ironic too, not bad for halogen bulbs. But LEDS ideal for full beam, Xenons would ben no good for full beam as they take a few moments to power up so flashing folk with xenon full beam would be ineffective.
I think the dipped are H7s and I resed a kit I already had but this is the equivalent kit:
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-55w-pro-max-xenon-hid-c...
I went for 6000k from memory.
and the LED sidelights are capped which I bought from these guys.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300593408416
I bought a load for my other car too so I think these are the right ones. Just be aware that LED light only work with the DC current in one direction so you may need to swap the wires over.
While I was at it I bought the capless ones for my number plate lights to go with my LED rear lights. The total mod makes the car look far more modern, more than you might think!
Just the sidelights:
with dipped.... I appreciate the pointlessness of this picture but the difference in the visible road is quite spectacular.
Very worthwhile mod....
Hope that helps!
just wondering how you got on with these bulbsI uprated the 2 full beams, 1 dipped to a xenon and the sidelight to a 5w LED. And fitted iridium indicator bulbs. Looks much better day and night!
I investigated the LEDS stuff but there isn't a common tried and tested product yet so I think its still in its infancy so I decided to leave it for a couple more years but results look promising! For my dipped projector lamps I fitted the H7 55w Xenon kit. Amazing. However I needed to add in a relay and do some additional wiring to make sure they stay on when the full beam is put on (std wiring cuts the power to the dipped when selecting full beam).
Check it out:
Also note the new spongue tape I used to improve the seal (and stop the inside of the lights getting dirty again). I also covered the seals once the covers were refitted with weatherproof unibond duck tape! I refuse to clean out the headlamps again!
From Memory and looking at the pics,The 2 full beams are different The lower one is H1 and the upper is H7. I bought these for the full beams (and the H1 equivalent).
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005ZSUNL8?psc=...
I found the product name ironic too
, not bad for halogen bulbs. But LEDS ideal for full beam, Xenons would ben no good for full beam as they take a few moments to power up so flashing folk with xenon full beam would be ineffective.I think the dipped are H7s and I resed a kit I already had but this is the equivalent kit:
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-55w-pro-max-xenon-hid-c...
I went for 6000k from memory.
and the LED sidelights are capped which I bought from these guys.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300593408416
I bought a load for my other car too so I think these are the right ones. Just be aware that LED light only work with the DC current in one direction so you may need to swap the wires over.
While I was at it I bought the capless ones for my number plate lights to go with my LED rear lights. The total mod makes the car look far more modern, more than you might think!
Just the sidelights:
with dipped.... I appreciate the pointlessness of this picture but the difference in the visible road is quite spectacular.
Very worthwhile mod....
Hope that helps!
Edited by confusionhunter on Sunday 21st December 14:08
Edited by confusionhunter on Sunday 21st December 14:10
im about to order some and fit to standard unit(they will fit wont they?
do they over heat?
are you please with them?
thanks dom
Evening chaps,
Everythings been fine on headlight upgrade, I even passed an MOT and the only thing that was said that my drivers side was slightly too high. I haven't actually used the lights in anger as yet, but as you can see from the pics in the other thread it really does may a big difference. LED bulbs are also an option but Id be concerned if the get too close to the tyres.
Next headlight upgrade is to add in some Silica gel bags to eliminate any condensation on the inside. Getting the things to seal is a pain, I still get a little condensation in strong sunlight after rainfall.
Everythings been fine on headlight upgrade, I even passed an MOT and the only thing that was said that my drivers side was slightly too high. I haven't actually used the lights in anger as yet, but as you can see from the pics in the other thread it really does may a big difference. LED bulbs are also an option but Id be concerned if the get too close to the tyres.
Next headlight upgrade is to add in some Silica gel bags to eliminate any condensation on the inside. Getting the things to seal is a pain, I still get a little condensation in strong sunlight after rainfall.
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