Bulbs/Lamps

[deadscoob]

The Phillips bulbs are replacement for existing xenon bulbs, so you could get the kit and then add the higher quality phillips bulbs.

[V8Dom]

just come back from a run with the new hid light..

wow...what a difference...differeance between hot and cold..

now i need to look at main beam as low beam is brighter.

[confusionhunter]

Yea, I rewired my relays so the dipped is on all the time even on full beam, so the 4 halogens assist rather than replace the HID. HIDs arent so good on full beams (well not all of em) as if you are fleshing someone in the daytime they dont power up as quickly as halogen.
Might not be too much of a problem but worth considering.

[F.C.]

Racingroj said:

Eh! Is it only me that didn't understand any of that. Can someone put that in English please?

Colour temperature = visible spectrum for Human eye 4150(I think is Close to daylight) the higher the colour temperature the more the visibility diminishes, so a 6000K lamp will be blue colour and to the human eye less visible so less penetration into darkness, 4000ish K Lamp nearer daylight so human eye sees further penetration into darkness.

All HID lamps "Burn off" for the first hundred or so hours and then level off.
Cheap HID's will burn off 1000k's worth, going higher up the colour spectrum, whereas a quality lamp will hold to nearer its original K value.
The moral is to buy quality 4300K lamps if you want lasting visible light.
If you want blue light then cheap will do just fine.

[V8Dom]

i went for the 5000k option... looks great

[deadscoob]

How big are the ballasts on your kit Dom? Am tempted to go for the slimline.

Have you mounted then on the clam or on the chassis?

Cheers

[Racingroj]

Hi Dom
Looks like you have got a result here. Any chance of details of what you bought and where from? Also what you had to do to fit them with some photos. I know it's a lot to ask but it will really help numpties like me. How was the heat of the new lamps?
Thanks
Roj

[V8Dom]

deadscoob said:

How big are the ballasts on your kit Dom? Am tempted to go for the slimline.

Have you mounted then on the clam or on the chassis?

Cheers

hi ''''''dont''''''' go for the slim line yet,,,

talking to the supplier. the normal 35w and 55w run at the same temperature. and left on for an hour last night the plastic headlight covers werent even warm, BUT the slim line runs alot hotter.... so i suggest if you do, be very careful

the packs sit nicely turned side ways and double side sticky on the nice flat area. the wires which are only on one side of the box, run above the indicator unit and bottom main

so much easier to drive, makes night time driving a pleasure now,

dom

[V8Dom]

Racingroj said:

Hi Dom
Looks like you have got a result here. Any chance of details of what you bought and where from? Also what you had to do to fit them with some photos. I know it's a lot to ask but it will really help numpties like me. How was the heat of the new lamps?
Thanks
Roj

hi
ill pop over if you want...you are only up the road. and pasted through Poynton last night
fitting with back cover off... 5 mins each side!!

kit is as listed at the start..http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-55w-pro-max-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html.

the only difference as said is i didnt go for the 6000 , but the 5000 as i didnt want a blue headlight. mine are white and look fantastic.

if like mine you have an older car, ive just updated my indicators... its worth doing at the same time as although i was supprised when they arrived they were still a bulb type, they look much better.



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[Racingroj]

Thanks Dom
Should have called in.
Just text or call when you have a bit of time and want a ride out, it would be good to see you.

[Racingroj]

Hi confusionhunter can you advise the exact details of which bulbs you bought from what sites for all the mods. I know some of you guys would know some of this from your already extensive knowledge but some for like me this is all new ground. I have just been on the website link for the H7 Xenon HID conversion kits but don't know if I need reflector or projector type. Also for the main beam I realise that the Xenon bulbs are no good for flashing but the Amazon site seams to say these are Xenon bulbs. Sorry about the lack of knowledge here. Just to add Dom called last night with the new dipped H7's and the difference is amazing.

[V8Dom]

Roger
they are projection
great to see you last night.

dom

[Racingroj]

Thanks Dom
Good to see you thanks for all the advice, much appreciated.
Do you know which bulbs Confusionhunter has used for his main beams and are they a mixture so he can flash (his lights that is before any of you comedians latch on)?
Thanks again
Roj

[confusionhunter]

Yea you leave my flashing habits out of it!

Yea I guess it must be confusing, but true to my username I will hunt it out!! Rereading my post on page 1....

The dipped bulb I used are H7 'HID' (high intensity Discharge) or sometimes known as 'Xenons'. But their proper name is 'HID' as modern lights don't always use the xenon gas. These HID lights require ballast packs to convert the DC supply.

The full beam bulbs i used are in fact standard style Halogen bulbs, I don't have fogs so I have one H7 and one H1 on each side. the product I happen to have bought are these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005ZSUNL8?psc=...

which happen to have 'xenon' in the title but not forgetting xenon is in fact a halogen gas. Therefore these are Halogen bulbs NOT 'HIDs'. So I hope that clears it up a little. These are the equivalent of osram nightbreakers or any high quality/efficiency halogen bulb.

Because I have 2 main beams each side I could in fact fit HIDs in one set of my main beams meaning Id have halogen fast acting for flashing and HID for any proper night driving.

To be honest the HID dipped left on with the full beam is plenty light enough for me at the moment so that's an upgrade too far for me at the mo...

As I mentioned before, I think LED lights when they become more affordable I think will be the weapon of choice and have many advantages over both HID and Halogen. so my set up will do me until that day!

[Racingroj]

Thanks for the info. I have ordered the HID's so will now order the Halogens. Just one more query I have received the LED side light bulbs and they are bayonet type as shown on the site but the Ultima holders are spade type do I need to change the bulbs or the holders?

[confusionhunter]

Doh! Well my ones were bayonet fitment but my rear number plate lights were the 'spade type'. I actually had to get a second set of bayonets as I didn't appreciate you get the lugs at 180 degrees and 130 degrees offset! which ever I have I bought the wrong ones to begin with. Personally I'd get the right bulbs to save lopping of wires and sourcing holders. Not sure what would be usual factory Standard would be though.

I used ones similar to these in my rear number plate lights:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x5-SMD-LED-501-T10-W5W-...
which sound like the spade type you describe.

Edited by confusionhunter on Wednesday 18th March 23:42

[Racingroj]

Thanks again for the info. I will report back when I have fitted and checked everything. If they work out anything like Doms I will be well pleased.

[deadscoob]

Mine are turning up today too, I have H4s so will also report back

[V8Dom]

talking of bulbs.

anyone found some bulbs to go in the back of the ultima gauges, so you can read them at night.

maybe im just getting old but i cant see them as they are like candle light?

dom

[Racingroj]

Just resurrecting this for some of the new members. The changes make a huge difference for not a large outlay.