New Front. Redesign - opinions?

[The Italian]

Ult-Jim said:

I wonder how softening the lines & the larger vents have on the overall aerodynamics.

I also wonder the same. The car design I would think is crucial to it's overall performance (on the street & track days that is) Full-on racing is out of my league & beyond, but if we look at the
"track records" why redesign it?
I understand the want to update it and the front could use it, but I wouldn't want to alter it for the sake of looks only. Would the larger open front also affect strength?

[845ste]

for me the problem of look ultima is in the rear:
rear is too much simil corvett.....

front i very good but , if i see front, the central cabin looks like a bubble

de gustibus

[The Italian]

Maybe the older Vette, which means the Vette looks like an Ultima
The new Vette looks like a Disco ball

[UltimaPanthera]

Mr.Snood said:

Now i try to figure which heads lamps i can use and the cost of that...
Opinions? Suggestions?
Concerns regarding IVA?

Nice design!
But keep in mind the 500 mm minimum headlamp height.

Some 2 months back there was a discussion on lamps (Nolden/Hella):
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Wrt alternative front design: what do you think of Jon Olsson's R1k?
http://www.jon-olsson.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/...

[UltimaPanthera]

Also not bad:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:AN...
(although not strictly Ultima)

[F.C.]

UltimaPanthera said:

Also not bad:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:AN...
(although not strictly Ultima)

seriously?
That is FUGLY

[UltimaPanthera]

F.C. said:

seriously?
That is FUGLY

Well - as Confucius said: "De gustibus non est disputandum" - or was it Nietzsche?

Anyway: how about this...
http://www.english.ultimacars.de/?page_id=317
Better?

Edited by UltimaPanthera on Wednesday 18th March 20:12

[Mr.Snood]

Might be a stupid question, but trying to figure which headlights i can use.

Want to use LED headlights and am looking at the Nolden catalogue right now:
http://www.noldengmbh.de/docs/Nolden_Programm_2014...

First of all: What do i need?
Low + High beam?
Fog lights and position isn't necessary for IVA (TÜV)?

Hence my current choice would be:
70mm high beam (13W) (page 43 at nolden)
90mm series 900, low beam (25W) (page 34)

Are these powerful enough and is that all i need (apart from indicators)?
E.g. the 90mm Bi-LED headlights (page 33) have 50W high beam and 40W low beam. Looks much more powerful, or am i wrong?

[deadscoob]

I'd imagine a 50w LED light would be v bright.

Out of interest, how much are the 90mm lights?

[deadscoob]

I'd imagine a 50w LED light would be v bright.

Out of interest, how much are the 90mm lights?

[F.C.]

UltimaPanthera said:

Well - as Confucius said: "De gustibus non est disputandum" - or was it Nietzsche?

Dostoyevsky, in one of his books.

[F.C.]

Right now I'd be looking at what units the factory are supplying for the Evolution.

[UltimaCH]

F.C. said:

Dostoyevsky, in one of his books.

Yes, it was quoted by Mitya in Fyodor Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov

[Mr.Snood]

See my Edit in the initial post please:

[BogBeast]

Well done. Great project by the look of it. I would love to do something similar to the front of my Sport

It looks like you made a completely new front end mould?

[Mr.Snood]

Yes, we modified the original hood.
When we finished the changes we created a mould from that,
and made a new carbon hood to save some weight...

[F.C.]

Well done!

Looks better now in the real world as it were.

[UltimaCH]

The rear view mirrors just look very much out of place now (Mickey Mouse 🐭). Some wing mounted mirrors would look better IMO

[RedAndy]

I love this type of project - well done for giving it a go

I agree with the masses - angular doesnt work on the swoopy body, unless you're going Ford "Hard edge design" which has curves cut off by a slash.

Pug 206 Morette worked well mounted upside down for the Ascari - try something similar? Have you thought of using something eye-shaped like a puma or Cougar headlamp. The Cougar could be rotated slightly to make it more like a TVR Speed12.

Watching with great interest - keep up the good work

(Don't us as Puma light - they are worse than candles in jam jars)

[BogBeast]

Mr.Snood said:

... and made a new carbon hood to save some weight...

Out of interest, how much weight did you save? and was it prep-preg or wet layup?