Stance Air Cups

Stance Air Cups

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xrtim

Original Poster:

247 posts

106 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Is anyone using these to raise the height of the suspension to clear road/garage obstructions or any other system. The car is being built at the moment (engine mock up just finishing waste gates routing) but may have a problem getting out of the garage with std ride height

F.C.

3,896 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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xrtim said:
Is anyone using these to raise the height of the suspension to clear road/garage obstructions or any other system. The car is being built at the moment (engine mock up just finishing waste gates routing) but may have a problem getting out of the garage with std ride height
No,
Too much junk associated with this type of lift system, air compressor, reservoir etc.

Hydraulic systems are available and weigh less:

These "ramlift" are available your side of the pond, not too sure about after sales service though.
they wouldn't sell me replacement lifters for some that were crash damaged, they would only sell the whole kit! rolleyes

http://www.ramliftpro.com/

These are supposedly quality items and are found standard fitting on some exotics,
Deep pockets required though frown

http://www.kwsuspensions.co.uk/kw/info/kw_hls/



xrtim

Original Poster:

247 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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thanks for the info I will check them out later

prads

12 posts

118 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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If you're referring to the Static+ kits you don't need anything else apart from a small compressor and air line. No tank is needed, it would help for speed of air filling but not essential.


ROWDYRENAULT

1,270 posts

213 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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OR you could put a light weight air bottle in the nose of the car with no compressor and use the pressurized air until it ran out. Think about it, how often on a single trip from home will you use the system? just put a refill fitting hidden in the radiator air inlet area somewhere and recharge it when you get home, I bet a single cylinder of air would raise the nose 5 or 6 times at least. Just a thought. Lee

2001ultima

234 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
OR you could put a light weight air bottle in the nose of the car with no compressor and use the pressurized air until it ran out.
Good point. I think this is a good idea.

UltimaCH

3,155 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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2001ultima said:
Good point. I think this is a good idea.
+1 clap

xrtim

Original Poster:

247 posts

106 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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some good ideas there, I aim to go touring with the car when finished so i think a powered system is the way for me but great idea for the air recharge cylinder, hadn't even thought of that many thank for the replys
Tim

Steve_D

13,737 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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xrtim said:
some good ideas there, I aim to go touring with the car when finished so i think a powered system is the way for me but great idea for the air recharge cylinder, hadn't even thought of that many thank for the replys
Tim
Whilst touring you will visit plenty of filling stations where you can also top up your air.

Steve

ROWDYRENAULT

1,270 posts

213 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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On most of the trips cross country my experience would be that you would use the system once to get into the hamburger stand and once into the gas station before you jump on it again. Lee

Rscocca

127 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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I used a kit form a company called RideTech, I can raise and lower front on demand. Raise 3 inches. Only has a small on demand pump, 1 gauge with a needle for each side in gauge. works great.

http://www.ridetech.com/store/shockwaves/

Clears front Uppers if mounted upside down.

I've been driving for about 1200 miles with no issue.



F.C.

3,896 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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Rscocca said:
I used a kit form a company called RideTech, I can raise and lower front on demand. Raise 3 inches. Only has a small on demand pump, 1 gauge with a needle for each side in gauge. works great.

http://www.ridetech.com/store/shockwaves/

Clears front Uppers if mounted upside down.

I've been driving for about 1200 miles with no issue.
which model did you use?

Do you have them all round or just front?

do you have any pics? wink

deadscoob

2,263 posts

259 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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How do these type of shocks compare with a good "normal" shock such as nitron etc?

xrtim

Original Poster:

247 posts

106 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Rscocca said:
I used a kit form a company called RideTech, I can raise and lower front on demand. Raise 3 inches. Only has a small on demand pump, 1 gauge with a needle for each side in gauge. works great.

http://www.ridetech.com/store/shockwaves/

Clears front Uppers if mounted upside down.

I've been driving for about 1200 miles with no issue.
thanks for the information, what specification have you chosen for the install and do you think that they would also fit the rear.
Regards Tim

BogBeast

1,136 posts

262 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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deadscoob said:
How do these type of shocks compare with a good "normal" shock such as nitron etc?
It is a normal type shock but underneath an air spring. They seem to offer a range of adjustability and they seem to work with FOX Racing Shocks so I would hope they work well. Real question I guess is how an air spring differs in behaviour to a traditional coil spring. is pretty good for a pair of single adjustables and the air springs. Plus the other gubbins as well I guess... I am off to the States again soon as well smile

Rscocca

127 posts

123 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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I used the TQ series.
I feel when set to soft it ride better then my daily driver (GMC Denali).
I have them only in the front as there is plenty of clearance in the rear.
I mounted the assembly upside down and it clears the upper arm on full droop and compression.
steering linkage does not hit at any angle. Only mod ification was to upper and lower shock mounts, just a little clearance.




F.C.

3,896 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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Rscocca said:
I used the TQ series.
I feel when set to soft it ride better then my daily driver (GMC Denali).
I have them only in the front as there is plenty of clearance in the rear.
I mounted the assembly upside down and it clears the upper arm on full droop and compression.
steering linkage does not hit at any angle. Only mod ification was to upper and lower shock mounts, just a little clearance.



Where is the compressor etc. mounted?
How do you activate to rise and then return to same level? I think the answers may be obvious but there is nothing like having it spelt out for you.
I have an interest in this as I have had a lifter system on my check list for a while now.

Rscocca

127 posts

123 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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picture of switches with dual gauge, simple up/down on air pressure (excuse mess on floor, photo taken during mock up)


Small on demand pump. no tank needed. If you want auto ride height it can be done but that involves more air lines and a tank.

Rscocca

127 posts

123 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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I raced this car at Limerock Raceway here in Connecticut USA. Car handled real nice and that was set on soft setting. Instructor at the track said that if we adjusted shocks to a firmer setting we would have faster track times. There was very little side roll around corners.

BogBeast

1,136 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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One you set to springs to the required pressure, do they stay inflated during ignition off? Do the gradually lose pressure and require topping up now and again?