Update (and tow eyes...)

Update (and tow eyes...)

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Pedders

Original Poster:

269 posts

284 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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chuntington101 said:
On the air filter, if the engine is making say 650bhp then the air needed will be similar to any other 650bhp engine. I wouldn't worry about it too much. You could try running it on a dyno with and without but it would be an expensive test! Just keep an eye on it for any signs of collapsing.

What supercharger inlet is that off (car wise)? I don't think I have ever seen a LSA with such a compact entry to the supercharger. Most stick much further forward I thought.
Thanks Chuntington. I bought the engine from AB as is ready to drop straight into the car (with all ancillaries already fitted - cat out of bag from a build skills perspective....), so I have only known it with this inlet - not entirely sure what was done to make it fit.

Edited by Pedders on Tuesday 26th January 19:36

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Oh on. Thought it might have been an AB product. smile

Can you post any more pics of the inlet? Is it cast or sheet ally or carbon (they said they were working on a solution)?

Back to the filter, you could run a pressure sensor between the filter and the throttle body and the again after the throttle body. This should tell you if the filter is restricting the system at all.

deadscoob

2,263 posts

260 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Or just measure the surface area as mentioned and work out if it's big enough.....

Steve_D

13,747 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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I'm sure I have seen K&N filters listed with their flow rates but can't find it just now.

Steve

F.C.

3,897 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Steve_D said:
I'm sure I have seen K&N filters listed with their flow rates but can't find it just now.

Steve
+1 Its on the air filter box, both max flow and supported horse power.

deadscoob

2,263 posts

260 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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They also have a tool which shows the min surface area you'll need

macgtech

997 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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From memory, 2 square cm per horsepower is a safe area for a panel filter, allowing for some blockage due to dirt etc.

Happy Jim

968 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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macgtech said:
From memory, 2 square cm per horsepower is a safe area for a panel filter, allowing for some blockage due to dirt etc.
Really? Does that mean a 500BHP engine needs a 1 square meter panel? (Or is my maths all to cock)?

macgtech

997 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Happy Jim said:
Really? Does that mean a 500BHP engine needs a 1 square meter panel? (Or is my maths all to cock)?
1 square meter is 10,000 square cm...which would be 5000 hp! 500bhp would be a 25cm x 40cm panel filter which isn't crazy.

There is a fair safety factor in this figure. 1.5 should be fine, but the lower you go the less room you have to play with for any debris or dirt causing a loss in efficiency

key750

259 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Mine is 200mm diameter, 300mm long.
Engine power is 627hp and seems filter surface is enough.



JohnMcL

146 posts

143 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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From http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm

The usable portion of the filter is called the EFFECTIVE FILTERING AREA which is determined by multiplying the diameter of the filter times Pi (3.1416) times the height of the air filter in inches, then subtracting .75-inch. We subtract .75-inch to compensate for the rubber seals on each end of the element and the filter material near them since very little air flows through this area.

A = CID x RPM / 20839

A = effective filtering area
CID = cubic inch displacement
RPM = revolutions per minute
at maximum power



356Speedster

2,293 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Nice work Pedders, there's some familiar parts in there wink

I have the same air filter on my car and I have to say it's marvellous. Immediately after fitting, I could feel the benefit and better still, could measure it with approx. 20 degrees drop in inlet air temp (yes really!).

deadscoob

2,263 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Do you still have an LS3 or gone LSA too? If LS3, would you mind posting some pics?

UltimaCH

3,155 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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356Speedster said:
Nice work Pedders, there's some familiar parts in there wink

I have the same air filter on my car and I have to say it's marvellous. Immediately after fitting, I could feel the benefit and better still, could measure it with approx. 20 degrees drop in inlet air temp (yes really!).
A 20° drop in intake temperature, that's talking business. I'm sure the engine appreciates, the driver too wink

Pedders

Original Poster:

269 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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356Speedster said:
Nice work Pedders, there's some familiar parts in there wink
Thanks! Yep, may have borrowed a few ideas from your build.... wink