Ultima Engine can bus question.

Ultima Engine can bus question.

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Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Hi everyone,

My name is Geoffrey, I live in Belgium and I am currently building an Ultima Evolution Coupé :

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I'll receive the engine from American Speed on thursday (LS7 700hp) and would like to pair it with a AIM MXG Datalogger.

I have a question for Utlima Owners/Builders, is it possible to get the Can+ and Can- data directly from the ECU ? American Speed told me it was possible but without any clue on where I have to seek.

Has anyone have done this before ? Can someone help me ?

Thank you !

GTRS

290 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I am doing something similar but with a RaceTech Dash 2. Speak to the dash manufacturer as they should be able to supply a CAN interface that allows you to connect your AIM dash directly to the ECU.

UltimaCH

3,155 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Hi Geoffrey, Welcome aboard!
Apart from this great forum which has plenty of technical info and ideas, I just wanted to inform you of our Ultima Owners page on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/376171159156661/

UltimaCH

3,155 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Looking at the Aim Datalogger and it's angle on the dash (could be optical illusion though), I would be afraid of possible problems with sunlight and glare when reading the screen.

Ultima427

24 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Will be interested to see how this goes as that is the dash I want to use when I get round to building with a big apple CarPlay head unit below it.. smile is that the 5" or 7" unit?

deadscoob

2,263 posts

261 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Looks like the 7" to me. 5" will fit behind steering wheel ok, that doesn't look like it could.

Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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GTRS said:
I am doing something similar but with a RaceTech Dash 2. Speak to the dash manufacturer as they should be able to supply a CAN interface that allows you to connect your AIM dash directly to the ECU.


Ok Thanks, I'll contact them !

UltimaCH said:
Hi Geoffrey, Welcome aboard!
Apart from this great forum which has plenty of technical info and ideas, I just wanted to inform you of our Ultima Owners page on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/376171159156661/


Thank you ! Waiting to join the group ! smile

UltimaCH said:
Looking at the Aim Datalogger and it's angle on the dash (could be optical illusion though), I would be afraid of possible problems with sunlight and glare when reading the screen.


I have been thinking about that problem, as the windshield is just over ... It can be a problem, I will get rid of it by screwing it differently. I hope so ...

Ultima427 said:
Will be interested to see how this goes as that is the dash I want to use when I get round to building with a big apple CarPlay head unit below it.. smile is that the 5" or 7" unit?


I'll post pictures of it when it'll be ON, it is a 7". You were right for the size deadscoob but the 5" won't be clear enough to read behind the wheel when you have the remote buttons option on the steering wheel.




Pascal Mertens

25 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Nice, another belgian Ultima !

Are you building it for the track or the road ?


greetings,



Pascal

Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Pascal Mertens said:
Nice, another belgian Ultima !

Are you building it for the track or the road ?


greetings,



Pascal
Hi Pascal !

For the Track.

Where do you live in Belgium ?

Pascal Mertens

25 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Rallyegolf said:
Hi Pascal !

For the Track.

Where do you live in Belgium ?
Stekene and you ? Mine is also used on track only...




Edited by Pascal Mertens on Tuesday 26th January 15:09


Edited by Pascal Mertens on Tuesday 26th January 15:10

ROWDYRENAULT

1,270 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Welcome to the Ultima community. I to looked at the AIM dash for another project besides my Ultima. In short the AIM costs X, but by the time you acquire all the bits and pieces to get it to work with a OEM ECU you add some serious money to the pot. In short I speced a MOTEC ECU, dash, switch panel and power management system. Yes the cost up front is expensive but the system woks on a digital Canbus system and everything works together. Plus the capabilities of the Motec new 100 series ECUs is over the top. Again welcome and good luck with your project. Lee

Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Pascal Mertens said:
Stekene and you ? Mine is also used on track only...


Edited by Pascal Mertens on Tuesday 26th January 15:09


Edited by Pascal Mertens on Tuesday 26th January 15:10
I'm from Mons. Do you know how many Ultimas are in Belgium ? I've never seen one, on the road as on the track ...

Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
Welcome to the Ultima community. I to looked at the AIM dash for another project besides my Ultima. In short the AIM costs X, but by the time you acquire all the bits and pieces to get it to work with a OEM ECU you add some serious money to the pot. In short I speced a MOTEC ECU, dash, switch panel and power management system. Yes the cost up front is expensive but the system woks on a digital Canbus system and everything works together. Plus the capabilities of the Motec new 100 series ECUs is over the top. Again welcome and good luck with your project. Lee
Thanks Lee !

I will have an answer from AIM soon, they told me that it won't be a problem to get the data from the ecu but they had to have more infos about it first.

I emailed Gail at AS and hope he'll answer too ...

Edited by Rallyegolf on Thursday 28th January 10:28

Pascal Mertens

25 posts

116 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Rallyegolf said:
I'm from Mons. Do you know how many Ultimas are in Belgium ? I've never seen one, on the road as on the track ...
I know a guy from West Flanders that I've met on track often who has an original car and a GTR and Derdaele Racing used to race a real nice GTR. A few months ago there was another guy at Zolder with a red SBC GTR. So far as I know 4/5 cars but probably more...

macgtech

997 posts

160 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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You should be able to wire the CAN Hi and CAN Lo into the respective wires on the OBD port, and load a config onto the dash which should effectively be plug and play - not done this on a GM loom but have done it successfully on a couple of other cars and it proved very straightforward

Rallyegolf

Original Poster:

6 posts

100 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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macgtech said:
You should be able to wire the CAN Hi and CAN Lo into the respective wires on the OBD port, and load a config onto the dash which should effectively be plug and play - not done this on a GM loom but have done it successfully on a couple of other cars and it proved very straightforward
Got The engine yesterday and noticed that there was an OBD port ... I tought there wasn't one so I asked the question.

Problem solved !

Thanks !