Sounds promising...

Sounds promising...

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BogBeast

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263 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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TR3B

172 posts

52 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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The second that's official I'm ordering another RS. biggrin

Edited by TR3B on Saturday 6th November 22:16

BogBeast

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Sunday 7th November 2021
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Just hoping they come up with a way of offering the tremec transaxle as well..

ROWDYRENAULT

1,270 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th December 2021
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A GTR with this motor and tranny combo would be epic. If that came to pass my L.S. and 996 GT2 TRANNY ARE FOR SALE

BogBeast

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Sunday 12th December 2021
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
A GTR with this motor and tranny combo would be epic. If that came to pass my L.S. and 996 GT2 TRANNY ARE FOR SALE
Indeed, although I am hearing that the DSGs are very hard to calibrate, so dropping it into an ultima would prove a challenge... I did ping tremec when it was first announced to see they were planning an aftermarket version, but they responded that they had no immediate plans... boo

TR3B

172 posts

52 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
A GTR with this motor and tranny combo would be epic. If that came to pass my L.S. and 996 GT2 TRANNY ARE FOR SALE
Dibs on the tranny! biggrin

Hey just out of curiosity, is your Ultima the yellow one I used to see at C&C on Topanga?

ROWDYRENAULT

1,270 posts

214 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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yes sir that was GTR1.0 My new GTR should be back to Super Car Sunday by Spring at the latest. The new car is an improvement over gtr1.0 in every respect and the first one was a pretty good build.

ROWDYRENAULT

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214 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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yes sir that was GTR1.0 My new GTR should be back to Super Car Sunday by Spring at the latest. The new car is an improvement over gtr1.0 in every respect and the first one was a pretty good build.

TR3B

172 posts

52 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
yes sir that was GTR1.0 My new GTR should be back to Super Car Sunday by Spring at the latest. The new car is an improvement over gtr1.0 in every respect and the first one was a pretty good build.
Ha! That's awesome. You'll never remember me but we've met a bunch of times. I used to live on Topanaga and was there almost every week.

Look forward to seeing 2.0!

Edited by TR3B on Monday 13th December 21:27

Lunarr

27 posts

27 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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BogBeast said:
ROWDYRENAULT said:
A GTR with this motor and tranny combo would be epic. If that came to pass my L.S. and 996 GT2 TRANNY ARE FOR SALE
Indeed, although I am hearing that the DSGs are very hard to calibrate, so dropping it into an ultima would prove a challenge... I did ping tremec when it was first announced to see they were planning an aftermarket version, but they responded that they had no immediate plans... boo
If GM sells the LT6 in the form of Connect & Cruise package with the Tremec transmission ( like the LT4 with the AT8 transmission, check Chevrolet website), what are the difficulties for integrate the package in the car ?

In any case, this combo would be epic in this lightweight car !

Lunarr

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27 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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UP

BogBeast

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Thursday 16th June 2022
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Lunarr said:
If GM sells the LT6 in the form of Connect & Cruise package with the Tremec transmission ( like the LT4 with the AT8 transmission, check Chevrolet website), what are the difficulties for integrate the package in the car ?

In any case, this combo would be epic in this lightweight car !
Well. if you just ignored the engine ecu and gearbox calibration, the only other show stoppers might be the length of combined engine/gearbox and where the prop shafts lie. I imagine the LT6 is dimensionally similar to other small blocks, maybe with larger heads, if so it should be 'fittable',. Exhausts should not be a problem providing the gearbox outputs in a good enough position to maintain a decent prop shaft angle, getting shafts made should not be too difficult..

Lunarr

27 posts

27 months

Sunday 19th June 2022
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That's what i thought.
If GM offers this LT6 as a crate engine, there are no real technical difficulties for integrate the package with the transmission in the car.

the question that remains, will Richard Marlow renounce his ethos of only offering fully analog cars ( no electronics and manual gearbox only) ?

TR3B

172 posts

52 months

Sunday 19th June 2022
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Lunarr said:
That's what i thought.
If GM offers this LT6 as a crate engine, there are no real technical difficulties for integrate the package with the transmission in the car.

the question that remains, will Richard Marlow renounce his ethos of only offering fully analog cars ( no electronics and manual gearbox only) ?
The factory only offers a manual option but it's your time and money so there's no reason you can't ruin your own car with an automatic. biggrin

Seriously though, IDK why everyone feels the need to start re-engineering Ultima's before they've even sat in one. After putting a few thousand miles on mine I can tell you that car is damned near perfect out of the box. An automatic would absolutely ruin the fun. If you were chasing tenths racing for money a DCT might make sense but other than that, no no a thousand times no.

From a technical perspective I doubt you'll ever get the GM tranny in there. Path of least resistance is probably something like this...

https://weddleindustries.com/products/new-products...

Lunarr

27 posts

27 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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TR3B said:
The factory only offers a manual option but it's your time and money so there's no reason you can't ruin your own car with an automatic. biggrin

Seriously though, IDK why everyone feels the need to start re-engineering Ultima's before they've even sat in one. After putting a few thousand miles on mine I can tell you that car is damned near perfect out of the box. An automatic would absolutely ruin the fun. If you were chasing tenths racing for money a DCT might make sense but other than that, no no a thousand times no.

From a technical perspective I doubt you'll ever get the GM tranny in there. Path of least resistance is probably something like this...

https://weddleindustries.com/products/new-products...
I see Ultima cars as a Lotus Exige Cup on steroids. These cars are really usable and enjoyable on track.

You are true, i never drive an Ultima (but i sat in one as a passenger).
However, i have driven and own numerous Lotus and i can confirm that the difference between a manual gearbox and a DCT gearbox is important on track ( KOMOTEC DCT gearbox not the slow IPS offered by Lotus).
I can understand the pleasure of the manual gearbox for a "dynamic" drive on road but imo for the track use, a sequential/DCT gearbox is one step ahead.


BogBeast

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1,137 posts

263 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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TR3B said:
The factory only offers a manual option but it's your time and money so there's no reason you can't ruin your own car with an automatic. biggrin

Seriously though, IDK why everyone feels the need to start re-engineering Ultima's before they've even sat in one. After putting a few thousand miles on mine I can tell you that car is damned near perfect out of the box. An automatic would absolutely ruin the fun. If you were chasing tenths racing for money a DCT might make sense but other than that, no no a thousand times no.

From a technical perspective I doubt you'll ever get the GM tranny in there. Path of least resistance is probably something like this...

https://weddleindustries.com/products/new-products...
When I am at full pelt in the Ultima I really would value a paddleshift,

Yes, well, one of those Albins would suit an Ultima very well, but over here is £30k inc VAT + another 3K for Geartronics paddle shift.

Before I jumped into that I would probably want to triple check the Tremec was not gonna work. Cant imagine the mass-produced tremec would be anywhere near that price..

Lunarr

27 posts

27 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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BogBeast said:
When I am at full pelt in the Ultima I really would value a paddleshift,

Yes, well, one of those Albins would suit an Ultima very well, but over here is £30k inc VAT + another 3K for Geartronics paddle shift.

Before I jumped into that I would probably want to triple check the Tremec was not gonna work. Cant imagine the mass-produced tremec would be anywhere near that price..
IMO, my thoughts :

With a solid budget for maintenance, sequential gearbox are adapted to the race cars as Radical, Ginetta...
DCT gearbox is very appropriate for the road legal tracktoy ( Lotus Cup, 911 GT3 RS ...)
Manual gearbox suit the best for a pure road sport car ( boxster, corvette, M2, Z4 etc..)

TR3B

172 posts

52 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I have 2 other cars with DCTs in them and the DCT kinda ruins them. They're certainly faster for it but I'm not in a fast car so I can have a nanny drive it for me. That's why I bought an Ultima.

deadscoob

2,263 posts

260 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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If you want to be quickest, a DCT/sequential box is required.
If you are not bothered, it’s not.