Anyone got first hand experience of living in Hong Kong?

Anyone got first hand experience of living in Hong Kong?

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Steviesam

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1,242 posts

134 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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So, can anyone tell me what life is like in Hong Kong?

Its being discussed at work and I suggested I probably wouldn't mind going-it would be for 2 years.

But what's it really like? I love NY, so if it was like that, then fine!

I do not drink, so bars etc are not high on my priority list, but are there other things to do in Hong Kong?

omgus

7,305 posts

175 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Probably best posting in the Asia forum. I know there are a few PHers from that corner of the world.

shakotan

10,683 posts

196 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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I lived over the border in South China for three years, and popped into HK pretty much every weekend as there was no ex-pat community in the industrial town where I was based.

I found it a really nice balance of China, UK and US atmosphere. Living is as cheap or expensive as you make it. Set 3 course lunch at the Hard Rock Cafe was about a tenner, for example. This was 10 years ago mind, and the exchange rates have slipped a bit since then.

jimothy

5,151 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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I can tell you - been here nearly 3 years so far.

I would say it simply depends on your status. A young person/couple looking to socialise (not just drink, of which there is a lot, but eat) then it's great.
Someone who wants a springboard to explore Asia - it's great.

Family - not so, got a 5 month old and planning to leave. A load of my ex-pat friends who have new babies are also planning to leave.

PM me if you want more info.

TaRD

778 posts

187 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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I was born there in 1975 but left when I was 6, so can't really help as I'm pretty sure it's changed some what.

shakotan

10,683 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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TaRD said:
I was born there in 1975 but left when I was 6, so can't really help as I'm pretty sure it's changed some what.
Cool story bro...

ETOPS

3,682 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I live in Hong Kong, have done for a few years...

What would you like to know? What line of work are you in?

Jimothy raises good points - to me (married, no kids, no plans for them), it is a spectacular place to live. It's definately not cheap to live like a 'westerner', in terms of groceries and rent, but if you follow local trends and habits, you can get by on a real shoestring.

Rent will be the big one. Will you get a housing allowance? It's pretty common, and essentially amounts to extra cash towards your rent, which is very tax-efficient.

It has a great arts scene, amazing restaurants, cheap, clean & reliable public transport, and a very active social scene.
You're on the doorstep to the rest of Asia, so you'll find that your typical month will include a jaunt over to Bangkok/Penang/Bali etc, which is probably my favourite aspect. All in, it offers a very 'city' lifestyle. Hard to explain, but if you visit, you'll get the feel of it.

Most of the territory is green forest, and very mountainous. Many folks take up hiking, as there are hundreds of outstanding trails leading to spectacular views and secluded beaches.

The downsides (to most) are:
Cost of property/rent. Interest rate rises (soon) will probably be the acid test of the prices here. When prices correct, they do come down to pretty good value levels, by NYC/London standards, but have been a fair bit higher for a while. We shall see. If you've got an indexed housing allowance, however, you won't need to worry about it.

Schooling: to system is causing a huge problem to folks wanting to send their kids to international/English schools. It's just a capacity issue, but now, many schools are charging non-refundable large amounts to secure your child's place. Otherwise, you need to get your kids on the waiting list around the same time you plan on having sex.

Pollution: it's pretty bad. I don't walk around thinking 'Jesus, it stinks', rather its rare to see clear blue sky. The smoggy sky is a reminder of the state of the air. That said, it doesn't stop me doing anything. Naturally, the city centre is a pretty fume-filled industrial machine, so I wouldn't go for my jog through Tsim Sha Tsui, but otherwise, I find it fine.

My advice, especially if you are without children, is go for it. Especially for 2 years, no brainer.

shakotan

10,683 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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If you can bag a place to live on Lamma Island, its a lovely retreat out of the big city, but within easy commute. Rent isn't particularly expensive there either, a spacious 1 bed-apartment with a balcony (and a roof terrace if you get lucky) was around £700/month when I was there in '06.

ETOPS

3,682 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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shakotan said:
If you can bag a place to live on Lamma Island, its a lovely retreat out of the big city, but within easy commute. Rent isn't particularly expensive there either, a spacious 1 bed-apartment with a balcony (and a roof terrace if you get lucky) was around £700/month when I was there in '06.
Yes, Lamma, and a good few other places (Discovery Bay, Mui Wo, Pui O, South Lantau) offer peace and quiet, but easy access to the city.

Unfortunately, such was the property market since 2008, any rental figures pre-2012 will be hugely off. Rents are up about 75% since 08. I'd wager you'd be spending HK15000 or more for that place now, Shakotan. Something has to give, it's just a case of when. Interest rates, I reckon, will be the catalyst. I'm usually wrong with this kind of stuff, though.

jimothy

5,151 posts

237 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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ETOPS said:
shakotan said:
If you can bag a place to live on Lamma Island, its a lovely retreat out of the big city, but within easy commute. Rent isn't particularly expensive there either, a spacious 1 bed-apartment with a balcony (and a roof terrace if you get lucky) was around £700/month when I was there in '06.
Yes, Lamma, and a good few other places (Discovery Bay, Mui Wo, Pui O, South Lantau) offer peace and quiet, but easy access to the city.

Unfortunately, such was the property market since 2008, any rental figures pre-2012 will be hugely off. Rents are up about 75% since 08. I'd wager you'd be spending HK15000 or more for that place now, Shakotan. Something has to give, it's just a case of when. Interest rates, I reckon, will be the catalyst. I'm usually wrong with this kind of stuff, though.
Not that easy access though - started out in DB and although central is only a 30 minute ferry ride away, when you count bus times, walking from the pier and stuck to a schedule then it's not convenient. Gave up on trips to town at the weekend because I missed a bus and couldn't be arsed to wait for the next one in 30 minutes.

ETOPS

3,682 posts

198 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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Well, naturally, you're at the mercy of public transport. But, if you want the peace and quiet, I guess its worth it. It's actually easier for 1/2 of DB to get the bus to Sunny Bay, and the MTR in. Same journey time, but with far greater frequency.

I guess most of the folks in DB/Mui Wo/Lamma etc make it work, but I totally see your point. I think (and even moreso if you're only here for 2 years) that Kowloon Station/Mid Levels/Causeway Bay are where you'd want to be.

Daveeoo

53 posts

157 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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A bit slow on the reply here, but I moved out 10 months ago to Hong Kong so I'll stick my ore in. Im looking at staying for a few more years at least. Absolutely love the place and Im so glad I took the plunge, if anything, I should have done so sooner!

Theres loads to do out of the drinking scene (which is also excellent buy the way). Any team sports, water sports, hiking, eating out (all types of food), exploring local Islands and culture, exploring asia very easily and cheap, shopping etc. Theres a track in Zhuhai for bikes or cars, although Ive never been. Theres also motor-x in the new territories which is basic but a good laugh. If you enjoy home cooking, I find it difficult to buy decent quality meat here though without paying for extremely expensive imported stuff but everything else is fairly easy to come by or you bring it back with you from visits home. If you like watching sport on tv, expat bars show it, or you can set up a vpn through your internet and access everything you could from the UK. My Mrs still watches Xfactor...

I found it very difficult at first without any kind of engine to tinker with, wash at the weekend etc. I cant afford a car out here and it would be difficult to do so as there's no where to park it where I live in Central. My solution was to buy an old vespa which has been an excellent breath of fresh air and retreat out of the busy city. It takes you where the tourists cant easily get to and satisfies the motor scene for now. There are also afew car clubs and plenty of car porn on the streets each day. Mostly the newest outrageous supercars being driven poorly by a local.


Get stuck in! You wont regret it.


Jonathanb48

32 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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I have lived in Hong Kong for more than 5 years, having originally come here for 3. I have three children here I would say if you are a singleton or couple then it's a great opportunity and it is a very vibrant place with a good (but not great) arts and music scene, a great social scene ( a bit like living in a very large Fulham for many), a very cosmopolitan feel and outlook. Tax is low and restaurants have really stepped up in the last three years? If you have money then great for owning cars but everything is 50-100% more than uk and no motor racing. It is also very easy to use hk as a travel hub so you will probably travel from hk a lot. Great for sports with many gyms rugby, boot camps etc. great for water sports. . I have seen comments about living on lama but honestly in your first three years while you are building your social network i would not recommend If you have a family then all of the above is possible but nothing is free in hk whether we are talking schooling, healthcare etc. activities. There are basically no international school places a available. Housing is 3-4 times what you would pay in uk, pollution is terrible. However I reckon if you are either a singleton or couple or getting good career position with an acceptable increase in salary or are just gonna earn a truck load then hk is great , but don't come here if you believe you can survive on a similar deal to London. I would say as a minimum you need 30-40% more net disregarding any school or housing issues. Hope this helps

J

K50 DEL

9,236 posts

228 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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As there's a number of Hong Kong people on here I wonder if I could possibly ask a favour.

I live in Dubai and am in urgent need of a pair of fuel pumps for a Ferrari 360..... I called the Hong Kong dealer earlier and they have stock (the first of the 6 dealers I've called that have some)

I'm considering flying into Hong Kong overnight tonight to collect them, but knowing my luck they'll turn out to be out of stock when I arrive....
I wonder if any HK residents would be prepared to pick them up for me (I'll pay over the phone for them) so that I know they exist before I book my flight.... I'd then meet up tomorrow to get them from you and hand over a bottle of something nice by way of a thanks.

ETOPS - wonder if you're in the flying game with that sign-on.... wouldn't happen to be flying to DXB tonight would you lol

Nurburgsingh

5,117 posts

238 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Did you get this sorted?

Im flying to HK on Thurs before coming to dubai on the 28th...


K50 DEL

9,236 posts

228 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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In the end not, I needed the parts in Dubai today at the latest and it just couldn't be done unless I flew there personally. I was all set to do so then the CEO called a meeting that I had to attend and that's that...

Just means a delay in being able to actually get the car registered and drive it!!