Trying to fit a home cinema kit...
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Anyone on here an expert? I thought I was until my current dilemma...
All I want to do is run some speakers and a sub with my telly. As I have a humax and in built dvd player, all I need is to find a line out from the back of the TV itself so that all sound runs through any speakers I buy. But, I can't seem to find a line out...
I have posted a pic of the rear of the TV here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Any advice?
All I want to do is run some speakers and a sub with my telly. As I have a humax and in built dvd player, all I need is to find a line out from the back of the TV itself so that all sound runs through any speakers I buy. But, I can't seem to find a line out...
I have posted a pic of the rear of the TV here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Any advice?
MX-5 Lazza said:
What CJS said sounds right to me. My Panasonic tv has 3 scarts and all 3 have audio output.
I can't get my head round this though. The 2 scarts on the back are to connect accessories such as DVD player, VCR, Playstation etc etc and when you turn the TV on you can select which of the inputs i.e Scart 1 / Scart 2 you wish to view.Nobody else anywhere has mentioned these scarts as having an audio output and I really can't understand why they would... If I go out and spend a few hundred quid on the hope that it works and it doesn't I am screwed... I can't test the output unfortunatly as I have no amp and speakers to hand...
If you want just left and right out use the headphone socket and one of these.
http://www.vdctrading.com/products_gridview.asp?Su...
Thats all I can really think of
http://www.vdctrading.com/products_gridview.asp?Su...
Thats all I can really think of
Scart leads are bi directional, they can carry signals both to and from a source at the same time, each pin is allocated such a purpose. See here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART
Pin 1 is audio out and Pin 2 audio in. As such it's entirely possible to "tap off" the audio output at least in theory, however the relevant pin will also have to have been wired up for such an output within your television, don't know if that is standard practice or not tbh and I would imagine a lot of budget brands might not bother, on the basis that for most tellies scart's primary use is for receiving. As above, if you have headphone socket that will be a more guaranteed solution, it will I guess remove the televisions own speakers from use however and not sure if that would cause an issue for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART
Pin 1 is audio out and Pin 2 audio in. As such it's entirely possible to "tap off" the audio output at least in theory, however the relevant pin will also have to have been wired up for such an output within your television, don't know if that is standard practice or not tbh and I would imagine a lot of budget brands might not bother, on the basis that for most tellies scart's primary use is for receiving. As above, if you have headphone socket that will be a more guaranteed solution, it will I guess remove the televisions own speakers from use however and not sure if that would cause an issue for you.
Edited by touching cloth on Monday 27th June 19:58
touching cloth said:
Scart leads are bi directional, they can carry signals both to and from a source at the same time, each pin is allocated such a purpose. See here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART
Pin 1 is audio out and Pin 2 audio in. As such it's entirely possible to "tap off" the audio output at least in theory, however the relevant pin will also have to have been wired up for such an output within your television, don't know if that is standard practice or not tbh and I would imagine a lot of budget brands might not bother, on the basis that for most tellies scart's primary use is for receiving. As above, if you have headphone socket that will be a more guaranteed solution, it will I guess remove the televisions own speakers from use however and not sure if that would cause an issue for you.
I have looked in the manual and it seems pretty certain that the scart holes are input only, the diagram shows them connected to the TV via a "scart out" source such as a DVD player etc. I am convinced of this, but unfortunatly can't check.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART
Pin 1 is audio out and Pin 2 audio in. As such it's entirely possible to "tap off" the audio output at least in theory, however the relevant pin will also have to have been wired up for such an output within your television, don't know if that is standard practice or not tbh and I would imagine a lot of budget brands might not bother, on the basis that for most tellies scart's primary use is for receiving. As above, if you have headphone socket that will be a more guaranteed solution, it will I guess remove the televisions own speakers from use however and not sure if that would cause an issue for you.
Edited by touching cloth on Monday 27th June 19:58
The headphone socket seems possible, and as long as it were stereo, then I would be happy. However, would the sound quality be compromised?
Do you have anything at all you can use to test rca outputs (amp, stereo, ghetto blaster, computer)? If so then just get one of the scart/rca adaptors (they are pretty cheap) and test it, then you'll know for sure.
I'm using a scart for audio output to a Dolby surround amp myself - actually a combination of HDMI for video and scart for audio as my amp is also my DVD player.
It would be unusual if at least one of the scarts not to be 2-way as things like video recorders often need 2-way connections.
I'm using a scart for audio output to a Dolby surround amp myself - actually a combination of HDMI for video and scart for audio as my amp is also my DVD player.
It would be unusual if at least one of the scarts not to be 2-way as things like video recorders often need 2-way connections.
MX-5 Lazza said:
It would be unusual if at least one of the scarts not to be 2-way as things like video recorders often need 2-way connections.
That's an interesting point... Another thing that has occurred to me is this: Simply swap the scart plug on the rear of the Humax into the VCR output. If the TV still plays whats on the humax, then I could use this scart out to go into an amplifier. I will try this tommorow.
Waste of time IMO, if you're after sound quality you're doing it back to front. Get a DVD / Blu-Ray player and connect that to the TV AND Amplifier / speakers, then it doesn't matter what's going on with the TV. At least films will then sound good even if TV will still be just through the TV.
nonuts said:
Waste of time IMO, if you're after sound quality you're doing it back to front. Get a DVD / Blu-Ray player and connect that to the TV AND Amplifier / speakers, then it doesn't matter what's going on with the TV. At least films will then sound good even if TV will still be just through the TV.
What he said. If you cant do the above thne you could try one of the Scart to RCA converters and then feed the Left and Right signal to the hifi.
what hifi are you trying to connect this to?
I should have a scart to RCA converter at home somewhere if you want one to try.. (will have a look tonight when i get home.) Also have a HP 3.5mm plug to RCA if you just wanted to try something and to check it works how you want?
Do you have the speakers and hifi yet? If not if you want try to make sure it works with the TV and your DVD player then i have a spare Denon Amp (AVR3300) in the garage at home.
nonuts said:
Waste of time IMO, if you're after sound quality you're doing it back to front. Get a DVD / Blu-Ray player and connect that to the TV AND Amplifier / speakers, then it doesn't matter what's going on with the TV. At least films will then sound good even if TV will still be just through the TV.
This - my Humax feeds directly in to my blu-ray via audio cables. The blu-ray is also my amp (Sony job).No sound goes from the TV to the amp...
nonuts said:
Waste of time IMO, if you're after sound quality you're doing it back to front. Get a DVD / Blu-Ray player and connect that to the TV AND Amplifier / speakers, then it doesn't matter what's going on with the TV. At least films will then sound good even if TV will still be just through the TV.
Problem is 95% of our watching is freeview - otherwise I could do that but we simply don't watch / have time to watch films regularly. I would say we watch one every 2 - 3 weeks if that.Puggit said:
This - my Humax feeds directly in to my blu-ray via audio cables. The blu-ray is also my amp (Sony job).
No sound goes from the TV to the amp...
Using what connections though? I only have 2 scart sockets on mine, a TV and VCR scart. The TV scart is plugged into the TV for picture sound, so if the VCR scart can carry the sound to an amp that should do the job... I am going to go and get a Scart > Phono converter this morning and test this with my computer speakers which use phono leads.No sound goes from the TV to the amp...
You could get an external freeview box and do the same as suggested with the DVD player, might be easier. The sound quality isn't going to be great though whatever you do, best would be if you can find a decent freeview (or freeview HD) box that has a digital audio output and then connect that to a decent amp / speakers.
Dizeee said:
All I want to do is run some speakers and a sub with my telly. As I have a humax and in built dvd player, all I need is to find a line out from the back of the TV itself so that all sound runs through any speakers I buy. But, I can't seem to find a line out...
A line out from SCART or the TV will need to go through some sort of amp, so either a separate 5.1 amp or active speakers.I think you'll find the easiest solution will be a one box 5.1 system rather than a sub and speakers. Then use the Maplin adapter from the other thread to run a phono lead to the amp.
Dizeee said:
Puggit said:
This - my Humax feeds directly in to my blu-ray via audio cables. The blu-ray is also my amp (Sony job).
No sound goes from the TV to the amp...
Using what connections though? I only have 2 scart sockets on mine, a TV and VCR scart. The TV scart is plugged into the TV for picture sound, so if the VCR scart can carry the sound to an amp that should do the job... I am going to go and get a Scart > Phono converter this morning and test this with my computer speakers which use phono leads.No sound goes from the TV to the amp...
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