Humax HD Help Needed

[The_Burg]

After retuning last week my 'proper' channels BBC1 on 1 BBC1 HD on 51 are now crap.
Did a factory reset, i get three choices, East Midlands / West Midlands and Cambs Bucks.
None of the options but the proper quality channel in the right place. I've done a reset each time.
This is getting damn annoying.

BBC1

1 Rubbish signal and quality. CH43 Strength 28% Quality 100%
895 Good signal and quality. CH27 Strength 72% Quality 100%
825 Low signal and high quality. CH43 Strength 28% Quality 100%

How do i get the correct channels in the correct order? This effects all channels including HD.
Had this when i first got it, tuned in wrong. Did a factory reset and all was lovely.

[OldSkoolRS]

Create a 'favourites' channel section and put the best signal channels in that...which is what I've done as I stupidly got the weak channels picked up off the back of my aerial at the top of the list! My aerial is pointing to Crystal Palace, yet I still get weak versions of the Hannington transmitter. I thought about retunning mine last night as the OH was away, then thought better of it as I think you have to redo all your recording settings. I'll have to make a list first of all our series linked stuff.

[The_Burg]

I've now done the manual tune. Pain in the arse. Still channels in the right place now.
Resetting the recording settings is a real pain. Why you can't back it up is a mystery. Hopefully next software update Humax will sort that.

I can see this being a money spinner for the aerial installers. Retune as advised and suddenly all your channels are breaking up on the normal positions. I know my parents would be straight on the phone.

Very poor system, how hard would it be to automatically pick the strongest signal. In fact auto tune. RDS has been around for 20 years plus on radios, surely the same thing could be programmed in to PVRs?

[telecat]

The problem is they are too good at picking up ANY signal. Mine pick up Belmont as the BBC Channels there are on Channel 22 whereas the Emley Moor ones are on 47 hence it thinks the earlier ones are those I want. I now retune manually as it's easier.

[OldSkoolRS]

Might have to look into this manual tune as the OH is away one night next week, so I can mess about with the channels in piece and quiet.

[The_Burg]

OldSkoolRS said:

Might have to look into this manual tune as the OH is away one night next week, so I can mess about with the channels in piece and quiet.

Go on Freeview website, if you know which transmitter you use, other wise look on signal strength and find the strongest ones. Go to manual tune and only scan the strong ones. Pain in the arse but at least all channels are where they should be.

(Still leaves all the crap channels you either can't actually get and dodgy porn rubbish and shopping for mongs channels)

[E31Shrew]

I have had the same problem here with Freeview via Humax. I start the auto tune then whip the aerial out when it gets to chan 31 and pop it back in when it hits 52. Works a treat and doesnt let Sutton Coldfield transmitter take over.
However only applies to this area!

[The_Burg]

Guess the box is just too good, we have 3 transmitters showing.
Must be about time for a new update, can't see why it asks you which transmitter then still tunes the wrong one.

[telecat]

If you go to www.ukfree.tv and find your transmitter it gives you the "channels" you need to manually scan.

[cjs]

I'm noticing this problem a lot more since the digital switch off and the higher signal strength, it is worse where a wide band aerial has been installed rather than a band specific.

You can get band pass filters which will filter out the unwanted channel groups. That's if your new digital channel line up is in a group of course!

[eps]

I had the same problem..

First switch off, the Beeb channels moved to 800+ Auto retune.

Then after the 2nd switch off the other channels moved to 800s.. (Auto retune)

Now following the full switch over I did a "return to factory settings" and all is fine.

[headcase]

If you just do a retune then any channel found will be added to the end of the channel list (800+), as you have discovered you have to delete the original tuning (factory reset) in order for the box to put them back it the correct order. Also with the Humax boxes dont forget to put them back to 16:9 too as they default to 4:3 (another wonderfull piece of software programming). Im sure its been covered higher up the thread, its caused by the digital switchover, prior to switchover freeview was on a weakened signal so it didnt interfere with other stuff, so for lots of people they have to get larger aerials, boosters, wideband aerial as in lots of cases the freeview signals were out of band. So you now have Jodrell Bank sat on your roof and we had the digital switchover and at the same time the signal went upto full power, the net effect is that your aerial can now see several transmitters where in the past you could only see one. The correct fix now is to get the CORRECT aerial instaled, one which points directly at your local transmitter, one that has the correct band for your area, one that isnt too big, and one that has a decent sized reflector, this will fix the problem in most cases. The problem is, if you have just upgraded before the switchover then that was wasted money. The cheaper fixes have already been discussed and manufacturers are attempting to fix it with software but remember it isnt the manufacturers fault.
Its also worth mentioning if you have accidntally changed the country settings then this will also cause a freeview tuner to sort them out incorrctly. And when doing a manual install delete the original tuning first, so on the humax select default settings then cancel the auto tune the second it starts, then select manual tune from the menu, or you end up with the same problem

Edited by headcase on Tuesday 11th October 14:33