Wiring up a new room help

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dirty boy

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14,703 posts

210 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Having a bit of a brain dead moment, and can't get my head round how I should be doing this.

See below. I want the TV on the wall, no wires showing, no plug sockets nearby etc...

So I put a double socket behind the tv for the tv and the xbox.

I run the HDMI cables to the Sky box in the corner of the room, and a spare (blue ray or something) the xbox (using kinect) plugs into the side of the tv (red white yellow things) so when we use the xbox, that'll have to sit on a table or something, but we won't be using it often.

Does that seem a sensible set up?

Any thoughts appreciated.

I'm no major techie, just would like a tidy solution with a bit of future proofing whilse things are being chased in etc.


Trustmeimadoctor

12,632 posts

156 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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erm run 2x hdmi to tv and buy av amp and connect everything to that


your not connecting your xbox via the red white and yellow leads are you ???


dirty boy

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
your not connecting your xbox via the red white and yellow leads are you ???
Yes, that's what it came with...

Trustmeimadoctor said:
erm run 2x hdmi to tv and buy av amp and connect everything to that
I don't really want to be buying anything else, so getting an amp is out of the question.

I don't even own a blu-ray, the dvd player is now in the playroom, so won't get used in the lounge. I think even a second HDMI may end up redundant, but best not to chance it?

Only thing i'm tempted on is Apple TV, as I've got Sonos on the way, and it would integrate well, with playlists etc, and using the tv.


FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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How is your floor constructed?

In a previous house I ran all cables from one side of the room to the other under the floor boards.

The standard words of wisdom regarding "Future proofing" is to double whatever you do. So, 4 mains sockets and 2 HDMI (1.4 of course)
Trustmeimadoctor said:
you're not connecting your xbox via the red white and yellow leads are you ???
That's what the OP said. I added an extra HDMI cable to my TV so my grandson got full HD benefit when he connected his Xbox

dirty boy

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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FlossyThePig said:
How is your floor constructed?

In a previous house I ran all cables from one side of the room to the other under the floor boards.

The standard words of wisdom regarding "Future proofing" is to double whatever you do. So, 4 mains sockets and 2 HDMI (1.4 of course)
Trustmeimadoctor said:
you're not connecting your xbox via the red white and yellow leads are you ???
That's what the OP said. I added an extra HDMI cable to my TV so my grandson got full HD benefit when he connected his Xbox
It's an extension, and the electrician is in today and tomorrow doing first fix, so now's my opportunity to get a few things done nicely.

My only real concern is the xbox I suppose. Because the tv is on a wall with no units, if we use the xbox (with kinect) i'll have to stand it on the floor or something, and run a cable down the side.

I 'think' the tv only has 2 x hdmi slots, but not sure.

Any recommendations on HDMI cables? probably need a 10m long one?

Trustmeimadoctor

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156 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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running it through those 3 cables your only getting standard definition from the xbox so missing all the goodness

you need to either run it via hdmi if the xbox has it if not you need a component cable which has red white green red and blue that will atleast get you hd but will need to be plugged direct to tv if you dont buy an amp


make sure everything is run through conduit and put in a few draw wires too so you can pull new things through if you need too

mattdaniels

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283 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Kinect needs a mains socket too, so you need 3 mains sockets by the telly at least (one for telly one for xbox one for Kinect)/ You'll need somewhere to hide the "brick" transformer for the xbox too.
Have you had a dry run with the kit to confirm that the wireless / remote signals work correctly? Otherwise it will feel a bit wierd facing the tv but having to point your remotes to the left to change volume / channel etc.

dirty boy

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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Okay, some good thoughts there, thanks.

Not worried about pointing sky remote in a different direction, we're already used to that in the current lounge, but the wires are balancing on door frames and around the skirting in that room!

I think if there's a double socket behind the tv, I might just throw a small two plug exension lead in, and drop it down when I need it, so I can plug the xbox and kinect....totally forgot about the extra power cable for the kinect! so thanks for that!

I think my set up will work for my needs..

Trustmeimadoctor

12,632 posts

156 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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any old hdmi cable will do really just test them before you install them !!!

jhfozzy

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191 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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mattdaniels said:
Kinect needs a mains socket too
My Kinect has just one USB connector???

dirty boy

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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jhfozzy said:
mattdaniels said:
Kinect needs a mains socket too
My Kinect has just one USB connector???
Fancy new xbox then

Mine's a 4gb jobbie (santa was tight this year wink)

StormLoaded

889 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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there are two types of kinect, those with a power cable and those without!

if you buy a kinect in standalone (not bundled) it will come with an additional power lead for backward compatability, as the older xboxes dont supply enough power through the usb socket so need the extra juice.
the newer xboxes do supply more power though, so a kinect bundled with a new xbox wont have the power lead at all as the console has enough.
if you use a new xbox but the (standalone purchase) kinect has the power lead i believe you can just ignore/disconnect the power lead.

bristolracer

5,542 posts

150 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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May be worth chucking in a co axial aerial cable too

bristolracer

5,542 posts

150 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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May be worth chucking in a co axial aerial cable too

mike_knott

339 posts

225 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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...and some ethernet.

Mike...

dirty boy

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210 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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mike_knott said:
...and some ethernet.

Mike...
What will that connect up? Internet tv or something? If so, I struggle to get 2mbps!

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

283 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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The beauty of Cat-5 is that you can put various devices on either end to pump signals down it (video, audio, data) so if you are looking to future proof your cable runs, that's probably the preferred way of doing it rather than run lots of different types of cable.

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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I use Cat5 through my wall to run an IR extender (all my kit is hidden) so I control everything by just pointing the remote at the TV.

headcase

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218 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Its worth mentioning that most modern TV's now are quite flat so look alot better mounted close to the wall, if this is what you want then dont put a socket behind the TV as when you put a plug in it they stick out quite far so a fused spare is much better for the TV power. The same for where your leads exit the wall behind the TV there isnt much point putting fancy wall plates on behind there they just get in the way just have your cables coming out of the wall with enough length to reach your sockets.
As for your leads then its well worth running a coax lead (even if you dont need it for an aerial you could still fit a sky eye to it so you can still point your remote at the TV) then 3 HDMI's (sky, blu-ray, xbox/spare), again check out the sockets on your TV if they are rear facing you may need cables with 90 degree ends so they dont foul the wall and dont get cheap crappy ones you will live to regret it the ends on cheap leads are dire and get damaged so easily.

dirty boy

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Monday 9th January 2012
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headcase said:
Its worth mentioning that most modern TV's now are quite flat so look alot better mounted close to the wall, if this is what you want then dont put a socket behind the TV as when you put a plug in it they stick out quite far so a fused spare is much better for the TV power. The same for where your leads exit the wall behind the TV there isnt much point putting fancy wall plates on behind there they just get in the way just have your cables coming out of the wall with enough length to reach your sockets.
As for your leads then its well worth running a coax lead (even if you dont need it for an aerial you could still fit a sky eye to it so you can still point your remote at the TV) then 3 HDMI's (sky, blu-ray, xbox/spare), again check out the sockets on your TV if they are rear facing you may need cables with 90 degree ends so they dont foul the wall and dont get cheap crappy ones you will live to regret it the ends on cheap leads are dire and get damaged so easily.
Socket is in already frown

Can you wire a tv directly in? What about the plug and fuse?