More 'Audiophile' bullsh*t

More 'Audiophile' bullsh*t

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TonyRPH

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12,971 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Well here we have the latest piece of kit for audiophools.

The £6899 *directional* ethernet cable

AudioQuest said:
Dielectric-Bias System
All insulation slows down the signal on the conductor inside. When insulation is unbiased, it slows down parts of the signal differently, a big problem for very time-sensitive multi-octave audio...<snip>
The last time I checked my network, it was just 0's and 1's flowing past - there was no "multi-octave" audio signal. Also, the bits / frames / traffic (whatever you like to call the data flow) worked just as well, no matter which way around I placed the cable.

If people actually buy in to this, then they need serious help, they really do.



ladderino

727 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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This cable makes 64K MP3s sound AMAZING. The added detail and insight is unimaginable.

Chimune

3,179 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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TonyRPH said:
The last time I checked my network, it was just 0's and 1's flowing past - there was no "multi-octave" audio signal. Also, the bits / frames / traffic (whatever you like to call the data flow) worked just as well, no matter which way around I placed the cable.

If people actually buy in to this, then they need serious help, they really do.
Haha - thanks for that !
"By extending the thought process of quality cabling from a server, PC or Media streamer to the router, further detail can be realised and restrictive shackles loosened."

Imagine how much one of their NICs is going to be !

After all, no point in a £6000 Ethernet cable going into a £7 network card...... imagine how 'shackled' the all the data will be !


Edited by Chimune on Tuesday 21st April 11:22


Edited by Chimune on Tuesday 21st April 11:22

qube_TA

8,402 posts

245 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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thing is, it's Ethernet, so in the unlikely event of a transmission or reception error the protocol will signal a retransmission of that data block, so you'd only have a problem if you were dropping so many packets of data that the rate it was successfully coming through was now so slow your audio buffer was running dry.

But as a bogo-standard cat6 cable can reliably cope with 10Gb/s of data over a 100M lead, enough for a crazy about of super-high definition AV you're unlikely to ever have an issue.

If you were then I'd buy a geiger counter as something is amiss in your home.


krunchkin

2,209 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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"non linear time delays" . Clearly Dr Who was involved in the product design

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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ladderino said:
This cable makes 64K MP3s sound AMAZING. The added detail and insight is unimaginable.
Added, as in added what was lost in the compression........ bloody good cable it it can do that.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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TonyRPH said:
Well here we have the latest piece of kit for audiophools.

The £6899 *directional* ethernet cable

AudioQuest said:
Dielectric-Bias System
All insulation slows down the signal on the conductor inside. When insulation is unbiased, it slows down parts of the signal differently, a big problem for very time-sensitive multi-octave audio...<snip>
The last time I checked my network, it was just 0's and 1's flowing past - there was no "multi-octave" audio signal. Also, the bits / frames / traffic (whatever you like to call the data flow) worked just as well, no matter which way around I placed the cable.

If people actually buy in to this, then they need serious help, they really do.
This must be breaking some kind of law?

cirks

2,472 posts

283 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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AudioQuest said:
firmly lock into place ensuring no critical data is lost....<snip>
Wow, that's good. No more need for the drip trays I have under my RJ45 connections around the house.


ladderino

727 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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I missed that this was a directional cable. I wonder how it works then given that ethernet transmission is fully duplexed.

Great reviews for this on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/263-Audioquest-Diamond-Ether...

Edited by ladderino on Tuesday 21st April 14:10

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

12,971 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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FredClogs said:
This must be breaking some kind of law?
I believe they are referring to the skin effect - however this has little or no relevance in this application.

AudioQuest said:
Dielectric-Bias System
All insulation slows down the signal on the conductor inside. When insulation is unbiased, it slows down parts of the signal differently, a big problem for very time-sensitive multi-octave audio...<snip>
ETA: Added quote for continuity.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Did tell someone once that their headset probably didn't work cos all the knots in the lead were slowing the leccy down. They started to undo the knots....

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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You do realise these were designed as Audio cables for companies who use a CAT5 connector to send audio signals around their systems.

This is not meant to send data from a NAS to a Streamer, but from the source to the dac, usually via balanced digital stream.


TonyRPH

Original Poster:

12,971 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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gizlaroc said:
You do realise these were designed as Audio cables for companies who use a CAT5 connector to send audio signals around their systems.

This is not meant to send data from a NAS to a Streamer, but from the source to the dac, usually via balanced digital stream.
Everything on the page suggests that the cable is for Ethernet usage.

They even state: "High Speed Ethernet Supports speeds of up to 10 Gbps over 100m."




gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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TonyRPH said:
Everything on the page suggests that the cable is for Ethernet usage.

They even state: "High Speed Ethernet Supports speeds of up to 10 Gbps over 100m."
Oh, I still think it is bks, but it was designed for speakerlink etc.




TonyRPH

Original Poster:

12,971 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Page also states:

"For best results have the arrow pointing in the direction of the flow of music. For example, NAS to Router, Router to Network Player."

ETA: This suggests that it's intended for Ethernet usage to me.

Edited by TonyRPH on Tuesday 21st April 17:45

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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TonyRPH said:
Page also states:

"For best results have the arrow pointing in the direction of the flow of music. For example, NAS to Router, Router to Network Player."
The reason for that is, they don't want you playing any Ozzie records backwards and committing some unspeakable murderous crime.tumbleweed

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Have you seen these?

They are Electromagnetic Circuit Transducers or they could be Electronic Circuit Transducers, even the manufacturer doesn't seem to know for sure.

You place them on things and they make it all sound better. Apparently.



Oh, and they cost $300 for a pack of 5. Of course, the more you sprinkle them about, the better your music sounds.

http://www.synergisticresearch.com/featured/audios...

swisstoni

16,986 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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ladderino said:
I missed that this was a directional cable. I wonder how it works then given that ethernet transmission is fully duplexed.

Great reviews for this on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/263-Audioquest-Diamond-Ether...

Edited by ladderino on Tuesday 21st April 14:10
'What other items do customers buy after viewing this item?'
Dr Tungs tongue cleaner - stainless steel
Game of Thrones - Season 4 Blu Ray
hehe

Countdown

39,866 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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ladderino said:
I missed that this was a directional cable. I wonder how it works then given that ethernet transmission is fully duplexed.

Great reviews for this on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/263-Audioquest-Diamond-Ether...

Edited by ladderino on Tuesday 21st April 14:10
My favourite biggrin

Amazon Review said:
I purchased four of these cables and connected them in a parallel quad configuration to my NAS specifically so that I could hear my 1970s quadraphonic recordings in their original splendor and glory.

The first music I put on was "Elvis - Aloha from Hawaii". The sound and imaging was so spectacular that the sweet scent of peanut butter and banana sandwiches on Elvis's breath came out of my speakers every time he exhaled.

Then I switched to one of my Who recordings. At the end of one track, Keith Moon actually jumped out of one of the speakers and started trashing my home. The performance was truly epic! There was at least $10,000 worth of damage to my place, but it was well worth it!

However, on the next track I noticed that Pete Townsend was making his way out of another speaker trying to get to my beer fridge and Roger Daltry was trying to make a move on my daughter and that's where I drew the line. You just don't mess with a man's beer or his kids. I had to cut two of the these diamond ethernet cables with a set of wire cutters I happened to have handy to prevent them from wreaking further havoc.

probedb

824 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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TonyRPH said:
The last time I checked my network, it was just 0's and 1's flowing past - there was no "multi-octave" audio signal. Also, the bits / frames / traffic (whatever you like to call the data flow) worked just as well, no matter which way around I placed the cable.
Someone tell BT/Virgin et al, soon we'll all have faster broadband and a faster overall internet if they used these cables everywhere!