Child friendly hifi speakers.

Child friendly hifi speakers.

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phil_cardiff

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7,087 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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At the moment I have a crawling, climbing 8 month old and stand mounted bookshelf speakers. The 2 aren't a great mix. I'm steering my son away from the speakers but want to minimise risk.

Ideally I'd like some low, broad floorstanders but you can't buy them new anymore (that I've seen). I don't mind buying vintage speakers but I'm worried that my Cambridge Audio 640a amp will be too much for them at 75w and will blow them. Are my concerns correct?

rix

2,781 posts

190 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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It wont be a long phase where you're worrying so I wouldn't invest a huge amount if you're otherwise happy with what you have. Be a little cautious with deploying your amp's power and you'll be fine!

phil_cardiff

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7,087 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Thanks. I was hoping to spend less than £100. The volume doesn't go very high these days!

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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I had a phone conversation with the 12yo son the other day where he told me he had put a 'Now' CD on and wanged the volume up to full. It was rather scary, evidently.
It might be my imagination but my Rega Ela floor standers now have a buzz to them.
The hi-fi worries don't end when the kids get older unfortunately!

Roadster25

272 posts

162 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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I wouldn't worry about your amplifier being too powerful for older speakers - most damage is caused by a lack of amplifier power rather than an excess.


Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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phil_cardiff said:
At the moment I have a crawling, climbing 8 month old and stand mounted bookshelf speakers. The 2 aren't a great mix. I'm steering my son away from the speakers but want to minimise risk.

Ideally I'd like some low, broad floorstanders but you can't buy them new anymore (that I've seen). I don't mind buying vintage speakers but I'm worried that my Cambridge Audio 640a amp will be too much for them at 75w and will blow them. Are my concerns correct?
Isn't it possible to make your speaker stands much more stable and then attach the speakers securely to the stands ?

Some stands are designed to be mass loaded by lead shot or dry sand. If your stands can't be mass loaded then possibly a heavy weight such as a paving slab, could be fitted to the bottom of the stand. The speakers could be attached to the stands using double sided self adhesive foam tape.

This would be a low cost solution without any concerns regarding power handling.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Don't think floor standing speakers will solve your problems, the dog has knocked mine over a couple of times. Problem seems to be that all the mass is high up, and they're Kef Q5s so not a very stable shape anyway.

marctwo

3,666 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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When my kids were very young my speakers went onto the bookshelf. They are still there.

phil_cardiff

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208 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Crackie said:
phil_cardiff said:
At the moment I have a crawling, climbing 8 month old and stand mounted bookshelf speakers. The 2 aren't a great mix. I'm steering my son away from the speakers but want to minimise risk.

Ideally I'd like some low, broad floorstanders but you can't buy them new anymore (that I've seen). I don't mind buying vintage speakers but I'm worried that my Cambridge Audio 640a amp will be too much for them at 75w and will blow them. Are my concerns correct?
Isn't it possible to make your speaker stands much more stable and then attach the speakers securely to the stands ?

Some stands are designed to be mass loaded by lead shot or dry sand. If your stands can't be mass loaded then possibly a heavy weight such as a paving slab, could be fitted to the bottom of the stand. The speakers could be attached to the stands using double sided self adhesive foam tape.

This would be a low cost solution without any concerns regarding power handling.
My stands are filled with sand but are still unstable. I'm not convinced a paving slab in the living with a speaker stand taped to it room will pass the wife test...

phil_cardiff

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Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Tom_C76 said:
Don't think floor standing speakers will solve your problems, the dog has knocked mine over a couple of times. Problem seems to be that all the mass is high up, and they're Kef Q5s so not a very stable shape anyway.
The speakers I'm after are the vintage type that are usually about 50cm high and 30cm wide and deep, so much more square and stable than your Q5s. I hope it'll work.

I can't put mine on bookshelves due to a window getting in the way!

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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hehe paving slabs aren't good for domestic harmony but adding extra mass to the base of the stand doesn't have to be that agricultural; there are companies who make plinths which will add mass and give a much larger footprint. Some of these might even pass the WAF test. http://www.oregondv.com/Floor_Standing_Speaker_Sta...

Imho the tape is a non issue because it wouldn't be seen when installed but it sounds to me like you've set you're heart on some new speakers.

Whichever way you go, good luck.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 4th July 14:17

TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Vintage floorstanders tend to be shallow front to back - so you run a greater risk of the speaker being pulled over on to the child.

When my two kids were going through the crawling / growing up phase, my speakers and HiFi stayed right where it was, and my kids were adequately supervised.

I never had a problem.

Also - double sided tape will just tear with the amount of leverage offered by a speaker on top of a speaker stand.

If you really had to go down that road, you would need to screw the speakers to the stands, and in turn bolt said stand to any concrete supports you use.

You might just as well fix the stands to the floor. That would probably improve your bass anyway.


phil_cardiff

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7,087 posts

208 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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TonyRPH said:
Vintage floorstanders tend to be shallow front to back - so you run a greater risk of the speaker being pulled over on to the child.

When my two kids were going through the crawling / growing up phase, my speakers and HiFi stayed right where it was, and my kids were adequately supervised.

I never had a problem.

Also - double sided tape will just tear with the amount of leverage offered by a speaker on top of a speaker stand.

If you really had to go down that road, you would need to screw the speakers to the stands, and in turn bolt said stand to any concrete supports you use.

You might just as well fix the stands to the floor. That would probably improve your bass anyway.
I'm confident we'll adequately supervise my children too. However I’m risk adverse and I want to minimise potential problems. I take on board your point about vintage speakers and will have a good look at any I may purchase.

I'm not screwing my stands to the floor...

TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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phil_cardiff said:
I'm not screwing my stands to the floor...
Awww gone on - you know you want to!

smile




Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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TonyRPH said:
double sided tape will just tear with the amount of leverage offered by a speaker on top of a speaker stand.

If you really had to go down that road, you would need to screw the speakers to the stands,
Hi Tony, it does need to be the right tape but in my experience tape will easily be strong enough. Google 3M VHB and have a look at a demo video.

StescoG66

2,118 posts

143 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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I recently purchased Monitor Audio R270HD. Slim floor standing, stable and sound ace

Funk

26,277 posts

209 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Wall brackets. The speakers can stay at the right height but without the stands underneath. When sprog is old enough remove and put back on stands, fill mounting holes.

Shouldn't be more than £50 for decent ones and if they're on a solid wall they'll sound fine too.

phil_cardiff

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Funk said:
Wall brackets. The speakers can stay at the right height but without the stands underneath. When sprog is old enough remove and put back on stands, fill mounting holes.

Shouldn't be more than £50 for decent ones and if they're on a solid wall they'll sound fine too.
If only you could screw wall brackets to a window...

telecat

8,528 posts

241 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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JBL Control Ones on Brackets. You'll need a decent amp though.

phil_cardiff

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Brackets you say? rolleyes