New 55" or larger TV - recommends?
Discussion
Hi all,
I need a new TV which will either go in our lounge or AV room to replace an aging Panny 42" plasma.
I've got a Samsung PS51D550 51" which I've been happy with other than quite distracting levels of screen reflection. Our AV room is without windows (long story) so I'm tempted to put the Samsung in there and stick something else in the lounge - but, the AV room (being my man-cave/home office), well - bigger is always better 'innit
Given the death of plasma (boo!), seems I'm pretty much forced to adopt LED?
On this basis - what's the pic of the crop? Budget around £1500 - needs to be full HD and 3D. Screen will be wall mounted and no interest in curved!!
Ta
I need a new TV which will either go in our lounge or AV room to replace an aging Panny 42" plasma.
I've got a Samsung PS51D550 51" which I've been happy with other than quite distracting levels of screen reflection. Our AV room is without windows (long story) so I'm tempted to put the Samsung in there and stick something else in the lounge - but, the AV room (being my man-cave/home office), well - bigger is always better 'innit
Given the death of plasma (boo!), seems I'm pretty much forced to adopt LED?
On this basis - what's the pic of the crop? Budget around £1500 - needs to be full HD and 3D. Screen will be wall mounted and no interest in curved!!
Ta
Very funny
Having done some more research, I'm tempted to contradict myself and go 4K. Samsung GU7500 is the front runner (don't know why I bother setting a budget as I always exceed it
)
Any comparative models I should consider? Currys (I know, I know, but actually they've been good to me in the past) have them with the Samsung wireless multi-room speaker sertup at the mo which sweetens the deal somewhat....
Having done some more research, I'm tempted to contradict myself and go 4K. Samsung GU7500 is the front runner (don't know why I bother setting a budget as I always exceed it
) Any comparative models I should consider? Currys (I know, I know, but actually they've been good to me in the past) have them with the Samsung wireless multi-room speaker sertup at the mo which sweetens the deal somewhat....
I was half serious
Ignoring the gimmick that is 3D and apps that can be added with any number of sub £100 media boxes/streamers you're really, really going to struggle to match KRP picture quality this side of £10,000.
After all, isn't that the most important point?
Being more serious, I really do not see the point in UHD, 4K or whatever it's called this month - not until an agreed standard is sorted out - I'd hate to be sitting with a TV that chose the losing format...
Ignoring the gimmick that is 3D and apps that can be added with any number of sub £100 media boxes/streamers you're really, really going to struggle to match KRP picture quality this side of £10,000.
After all, isn't that the most important point?
Being more serious, I really do not see the point in UHD, 4K or whatever it's called this month - not until an agreed standard is sorted out - I'd hate to be sitting with a TV that chose the losing format...
legzr1 said:
I was half serious
Ignoring the gimmick that is 3D and apps that can be added with any number of sub £100 media boxes/streamers you're really, really going to struggle to match KRP picture quality this side of £10,000.
After all, isn't that the most important point?
Being more serious, I really do not see the point in UHD, 4K or whatever it's called this month - not until an agreed standard is sorted out - I'd hate to be sitting with a TV that chose the losing format...
Good advice my 10 yo pioneer is still going strong only more recent screen I would consider is a panny 55vt65 that is now discontinued but you may be able to pick up used with a lengthy warranty.Ignoring the gimmick that is 3D and apps that can be added with any number of sub £100 media boxes/streamers you're really, really going to struggle to match KRP picture quality this side of £10,000.
After all, isn't that the most important point?
Being more serious, I really do not see the point in UHD, 4K or whatever it's called this month - not until an agreed standard is sorted out - I'd hate to be sitting with a TV that chose the losing format...
I've just been through the same mill when our plasma bit the dust a few weeks ago.
I'd have to say Currys is the best place to see them side by side.
I went in thinking LED was going to be rubbish. I also thought that the curved screen was a gimmick. I also thought that UHD/4K was not going to make much difference.
I was wrong on all counts. I ended up with the 65 inch curved Samsung.
The curve I thought I could take or leave. From the side, there's no difference, but from in front the view is more enveloping to the point where you do just forget the screen is curved.
If you've ever been to the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood - a huge single screen cinema which is curved, the effect is the same, it just works.
LED. I saw a demo of the bottom of the range Samsungs. There's even a 55 inch 4K Samsung under a grand. Stay clear. The movement on it is shocking. The demo on it was a confetti streamer - and every piece of confetti had a huge digital block jagging across the screen. Unwatchable to me.
We were torn between the 7 Series and 8 Series 65 inch. Pixmania had a deal on where we got the 8 series for the price of the 7 so went with it.
The UHD demo is absolutely stunning. The step up is like SD to HD in comparison.
That said, even on blu-ray sources, the look really does look better than a 1080p screen. The sharpness is incredible. Yes, the movement of objects is 'different' to plasma, but looks very clear and almost 3D.
Which is my next point - we've had a 3D TV for 3 years and didn't want to 'upgrade' to a non 3D TV - one of the reasons we went for the 8 series. I watched 'John Carter' on blu-ray as there's the 2D and 3D versions.
3D does look good - don't get me wrong. There's a sense of depth, as there should be. However, watching the 2D version, the up conversion to the UHD screen was so good it looked 3D anyway. And a lot sharper - which meant the resolution of depth was easier to see.
Of course, things don't 'jump out' of the screen - but I have to say the 2D viewing experience was so good I don't think we'll use 3D at all.
Upgradability - the Samsung we've got has HDMI 2.0 ports. It also works by a single cable coming from the TV to kind of a breakout box with all the ports on which sits next to your blu-ray player. There's a port in the back which effectively allows the hardware to be upgraded by inserting a card.
Overall - I'll highly recommend it.
As proof, the other night I left the wife in the living room, and went to watch a blu-ray in the 'cinema room' with the 63 inch plasma. I could tell the difference straight away, for the worse, to the point where I don't want to watch a film in there.
I'd have to say Currys is the best place to see them side by side.
I went in thinking LED was going to be rubbish. I also thought that the curved screen was a gimmick. I also thought that UHD/4K was not going to make much difference.
I was wrong on all counts. I ended up with the 65 inch curved Samsung.
The curve I thought I could take or leave. From the side, there's no difference, but from in front the view is more enveloping to the point where you do just forget the screen is curved.
If you've ever been to the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood - a huge single screen cinema which is curved, the effect is the same, it just works.
LED. I saw a demo of the bottom of the range Samsungs. There's even a 55 inch 4K Samsung under a grand. Stay clear. The movement on it is shocking. The demo on it was a confetti streamer - and every piece of confetti had a huge digital block jagging across the screen. Unwatchable to me.
We were torn between the 7 Series and 8 Series 65 inch. Pixmania had a deal on where we got the 8 series for the price of the 7 so went with it.
The UHD demo is absolutely stunning. The step up is like SD to HD in comparison.
That said, even on blu-ray sources, the look really does look better than a 1080p screen. The sharpness is incredible. Yes, the movement of objects is 'different' to plasma, but looks very clear and almost 3D.
Which is my next point - we've had a 3D TV for 3 years and didn't want to 'upgrade' to a non 3D TV - one of the reasons we went for the 8 series. I watched 'John Carter' on blu-ray as there's the 2D and 3D versions.
3D does look good - don't get me wrong. There's a sense of depth, as there should be. However, watching the 2D version, the up conversion to the UHD screen was so good it looked 3D anyway. And a lot sharper - which meant the resolution of depth was easier to see.
Of course, things don't 'jump out' of the screen - but I have to say the 2D viewing experience was so good I don't think we'll use 3D at all.
Upgradability - the Samsung we've got has HDMI 2.0 ports. It also works by a single cable coming from the TV to kind of a breakout box with all the ports on which sits next to your blu-ray player. There's a port in the back which effectively allows the hardware to be upgraded by inserting a card.
Overall - I'll highly recommend it.
As proof, the other night I left the wife in the living room, and went to watch a blu-ray in the 'cinema room' with the 63 inch plasma. I could tell the difference straight away, for the worse, to the point where I don't want to watch a film in there.
JustinP1 said:
I've just been through the same mill when our plasma bit the dust a few weeks ago.
I'd have to say Currys is the best place to see them side by side.
I went in thinking LED was going to be rubbish. I also thought that the curved screen was a gimmick. I also thought that UHD/4K was not going to make much difference.
I was wrong on all counts. I ended up with the 65 inch curved Samsung.
The curve I thought I could take or leave. From the side, there's no difference, but from in front the view is more enveloping to the point where you do just forget the screen is curved.
If you've ever been to the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood - a huge single screen cinema which is curved, the effect is the same, it just works.
LED. I saw a demo of the bottom of the range Samsungs. There's even a 55 inch 4K Samsung under a grand. Stay clear. The movement on it is shocking. The demo on it was a confetti streamer - and every piece of confetti had a huge digital block jagging across the screen. Unwatchable to me.
We were torn between the 7 Series and 8 Series 65 inch. Pixmania had a deal on where we got the 8 series for the price of the 7 so went with it.
The UHD demo is absolutely stunning. The step up is like SD to HD in comparison.
That said, even on blu-ray sources, the look really does look better than a 1080p screen. The sharpness is incredible. Yes, the movement of objects is 'different' to plasma, but looks very clear and almost 3D.
Which is my next point - we've had a 3D TV for 3 years and didn't want to 'upgrade' to a non 3D TV - one of the reasons we went for the 8 series. I watched 'John Carter' on blu-ray as there's the 2D and 3D versions.
3D does look good - don't get me wrong. There's a sense of depth, as there should be. However, watching the 2D version, the up conversion to the UHD screen was so good it looked 3D anyway. And a lot sharper - which meant the resolution of depth was easier to see.
Of course, things don't 'jump out' of the screen - but I have to say the 2D viewing experience was so good I don't think we'll use 3D at all.
Upgradability - the Samsung we've got has HDMI 2.0 ports. It also works by a single cable coming from the TV to kind of a breakout box with all the ports on which sits next to your blu-ray player. There's a port in the back which effectively allows the hardware to be upgraded by inserting a card.
Overall - I'll highly recommend it.
As proof, the other night I left the wife in the living room, and went to watch a blu-ray in the 'cinema room' with the 63 inch plasma. I could tell the difference straight away, for the worse, to the point where I don't want to watch a film in there.
do you have the exact product code of the tv you purchased ? I'd have to say Currys is the best place to see them side by side.
I went in thinking LED was going to be rubbish. I also thought that the curved screen was a gimmick. I also thought that UHD/4K was not going to make much difference.
I was wrong on all counts. I ended up with the 65 inch curved Samsung.
The curve I thought I could take or leave. From the side, there's no difference, but from in front the view is more enveloping to the point where you do just forget the screen is curved.
If you've ever been to the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood - a huge single screen cinema which is curved, the effect is the same, it just works.
LED. I saw a demo of the bottom of the range Samsungs. There's even a 55 inch 4K Samsung under a grand. Stay clear. The movement on it is shocking. The demo on it was a confetti streamer - and every piece of confetti had a huge digital block jagging across the screen. Unwatchable to me.
We were torn between the 7 Series and 8 Series 65 inch. Pixmania had a deal on where we got the 8 series for the price of the 7 so went with it.
The UHD demo is absolutely stunning. The step up is like SD to HD in comparison.
That said, even on blu-ray sources, the look really does look better than a 1080p screen. The sharpness is incredible. Yes, the movement of objects is 'different' to plasma, but looks very clear and almost 3D.
Which is my next point - we've had a 3D TV for 3 years and didn't want to 'upgrade' to a non 3D TV - one of the reasons we went for the 8 series. I watched 'John Carter' on blu-ray as there's the 2D and 3D versions.
3D does look good - don't get me wrong. There's a sense of depth, as there should be. However, watching the 2D version, the up conversion to the UHD screen was so good it looked 3D anyway. And a lot sharper - which meant the resolution of depth was easier to see.
Of course, things don't 'jump out' of the screen - but I have to say the 2D viewing experience was so good I don't think we'll use 3D at all.
Upgradability - the Samsung we've got has HDMI 2.0 ports. It also works by a single cable coming from the TV to kind of a breakout box with all the ports on which sits next to your blu-ray player. There's a port in the back which effectively allows the hardware to be upgraded by inserting a card.
Overall - I'll highly recommend it.
As proof, the other night I left the wife in the living room, and went to watch a blu-ray in the 'cinema room' with the 63 inch plasma. I could tell the difference straight away, for the worse, to the point where I don't want to watch a film in there.
Thanks
barryrs said:
Richer Sounds still have some TXP55VT65B's @ £1600 although they are open box stock
I have this TV. Picture quality is really, really good, and just seems to get better. Probably obsolete now, though?I rarely use the smart Viera stuff or 3D. Probably should - 3d on it is actually OK.
Harry Flashman said:
barryrs said:
Richer Sounds still have some TXP55VT65B's @ £1600 although they are open box stock
I have this TV. Picture quality is really, really good, and just seems to get better. Probably obsolete now, though?I rarely use the smart Viera stuff or 3D. Probably should - 3d on it is actually OK.
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