Chasing cables into the wall - stupid bloody idea!

Chasing cables into the wall - stupid bloody idea!

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Sway

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26,276 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Just had loads of work done at home, including a full replaster of the living room - so got an hdmi cable chased into the chimney breast for the telly.

Went to mount the TV, and ping! off comes the male connector.

Balls.

Some googling, 70 quids worth of supplies, and a looong afternoon gets me this:



Another hour or so, and time for a test:



It only bloody works! Haven't done any soldering since DT at school over 15 years ago.

Tests with a bluray (once I'd installed the 'proper' TV very carefully!) and if it's not 1080p I can't tell the difference...

Chuffed.

But am never doing it again!

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Good skills.

Next time though, chase in a conduit rather than the cable then no soldering required wink

gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Cut the fags

talkssense

1,336 posts

202 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Lesson learnt the hard way. Don't plaster stuff into walls it is a stupid idea.

As said above run a conduit, you never know what you will need to get up there in the future, who ever chased in cables for wii sensor bars etc.

Worst case, put some spare cat 5/6/7 in there so at least you can add more things at a later date.

barchetta_boy

2,197 posts

232 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Also depending on what kind of plaster / cement you are using, it can eat into the cable and ruin it. Always use a conduit.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Furthermore, ensure your conduit is about 4 times the width that you think you'll need, especially for long runs. Pulling through cables always seems to require more space than you think, and in the future there'll be more cables to pull through. (For example, when I mounted my plasma 8 years ago, I had not envisaged requiring CAT5 as smart TVs weren't around then).

barchetta_boy

2,197 posts

232 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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also, leave a length of string in the conduit before installation. Makes pulling through cables a doddle. Attach a 2nd length of string to the cable you later pull through and you will be left with a cable and a length of string ready for any future cables.

JimbobVFR

2,682 posts

144 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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barchetta_boy said:
also, leave a length of string in the conduit before installation. Makes pulling through cables a doddle. Attach a 2nd length of string to the cable you later pull through and you will be left with a cable and a length of string ready for any future cables.
I did similar but instead of string I left a couple of Cat5E for that purpose (and also can be used as extra network obviously)

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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LOL... You're telling me.

In hindsight I realize this was a bit of a silly way of doing it however now its done its exactly how I wanted it.

It look a loooong time to do and was a complete pain in the rear.

Edited by Lostprophet on Wednesday 26th November 21:00

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Lostprophet said:
It look a loooong time to do and was a complete pain in the rear.
Worth the effort though.

Kudos

2,672 posts

174 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I need to do this in next few days. What do you recommend to track the wall? Drill or big chisel? Or get a man in?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I use a wall chaser. Something like this...

http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erb383wch-125mm-...

Basically 2 angle grinder blades in parallel. You can adjust the depth and width of the chase. Then chop out the middle with a chisel in an SDS drill. Something like this...

http://www.screwfix.com/p/armeg-sds-plus-channelli...

With a vacuum attached dust is not too bad.

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

169 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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B17NNS said:
Worth the effort though.
I would say so. Absolutely. It all looks extremely smart. I am very very pleased. I am no builder and was on a tight budget so did it mostly own my own.

I used a sds hammer drill with a chisel. As you can see I took a lot of brick out of the wall.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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What ever you do, don't use a grinder to make neat channels, the dust is incredible! We used a small Hilti gun.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Lostprophet said:
I would say so. Absolutely. It all looks extremely smart. I am very very pleased. I am no builder and was on a tight budget so did it mostly own my own.

I used a sds hammer drill with a chisel. As you can see I took a lot of brick out of the wall.
I'd be a bit concerned taking that much out of a brick wall in a horizontal direction.

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Yep, I share your concern to. I got to the stage where I was thinking this is completely crazy.

I got a builder in to do the rendering, plastering or whatever they call it. It said it would not be an issue at all to the building. The wall is extremely thick. He also used cement to fill it all up so its extremely solid. Theres been no movement in the wall and its been like this for 6+ months. No cracks on the plaster or ceiling. I guess the builder was right.

I dont think I would do this again though.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I chopped some plaster out recently so I could fit a new socket, and discovered that the old plaster wasn't in very good condition.

1 x claw hammer and 30 mins later...


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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LeadFarmer said:
I chopped some plaster out recently so I could fit a new socket, and discovered that the old plaster wasn't in very good condition.

1 x claw hammer and 30 mins later...

When I bought my house the rendering and plaster on the bathroom wall was very dodgy in places (or so I thought) so started chipping off the loose areas and a few minutes later there was a small avalanche and I was left staring at a very similar scene, albeit with far more dust in the air.

T1berious

2,259 posts

155 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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I used an SDS drill and chisel attachment to "chase" and used conduit.

only because the guys I asked to do the work took the P1$$ with the quote. was so incensed I decided to do it my effin self smile

https://www.avforums.com/threads/home-cinema-diy.1...

jobs a good un!

Rubymurray

156 posts

131 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Could always go to the other extreme and try something like this!