65" tv recommendations
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Why the thumbs down icon?
Not keen on the curve myself, at that price range I'd be looking at LG OLED screens, still curved but proper blacks and better contrast and general all-round awesomeness. They might do a 65" version but I didn't look http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55eg960v-2015042240...
Not keen on the curve myself, at that price range I'd be looking at LG OLED screens, still curved but proper blacks and better contrast and general all-round awesomeness. They might do a 65" version but I didn't look http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55eg960v-2015042240...
They all seem to be going curve nowadays, frustratingly so. Either that or the non-curve models have weaker hardware (in Samsung's case they don't have the One Connect box, for example).
I think curved TVs are 2015's 3D - mostly a gimmick that no one was asking for. They look crap mounted on walls too, in my opinion.
I think curved TVs are 2015's 3D - mostly a gimmick that no one was asking for. They look crap mounted on walls too, in my opinion.
I've got the 8500 curved Samsung 65 inch 4K.
I was a firm curve-sceptic until I got it home. The comfortable viewing angles are increased, and if you want to get right in front and watch a film, the envelopment is a benefit.
If you think about it, on a large screen, if it's flat, the outside is further away from you. Your eye/mind makes you forget it as you simply get used to it, but once you notice it, it's always there.
I happened to be in Harrods yesterday and browsed the ranges there, up to a £70,000 105 inch model...!
I saw the LG OLED curved model, and the salesman and the demo was of course selling the benefit of ultra black blacks and there was a comparison on the LG demo with a simulated LED screen with much lighter blacks. It was a bit of a con to be honest.
I have to say that on the Samsung, I find the blacks to be very, very good. A lot better than my previous two plasmas. If anything I notice how good they are, not how bad.
I was a firm curve-sceptic until I got it home. The comfortable viewing angles are increased, and if you want to get right in front and watch a film, the envelopment is a benefit.
If you think about it, on a large screen, if it's flat, the outside is further away from you. Your eye/mind makes you forget it as you simply get used to it, but once you notice it, it's always there.
I happened to be in Harrods yesterday and browsed the ranges there, up to a £70,000 105 inch model...!
I saw the LG OLED curved model, and the salesman and the demo was of course selling the benefit of ultra black blacks and there was a comparison on the LG demo with a simulated LED screen with much lighter blacks. It was a bit of a con to be honest.
I have to say that on the Samsung, I find the blacks to be very, very good. A lot better than my previous two plasmas. If anything I notice how good they are, not how bad.
I too am looking at a similar size/price, however I want a flat 65" oled, which there isn't one 
Curved I agree looking at them on the shelves from 3ft away you can see the appeal, 4-5m away on the sofa with a wall hung no thanks..
Then there's the hole 4k debate, of which there isn't the content..
The 2015 sony ranges are only just appearing, had my aye on them but watching the oled demo's and seeing the slenderness of the panel they are appealing, but the curves are completely out.
Curved I agree looking at them on the shelves from 3ft away you can see the appeal, 4-5m away on the sofa with a wall hung no thanks..
Then there's the hole 4k debate, of which there isn't the content..
The 2015 sony ranges are only just appearing, had my aye on them but watching the oled demo's and seeing the slenderness of the panel they are appealing, but the curves are completely out.
I was in JL at the weekend hoping to see them but no luck, not seen any reviews yet either..
wiffmaster said:
I've just ordered this Sony. Today is the first day it's been available (not even on the Sony website yet). I really dislike curved displays, and after doing some research decided this was the pick of the bunch (unless you want to spend big, big money!)
foz01 said:
I was in JL at the weekend hoping to see them but no luck, not seen any reviews yet either..
I was in John Lewis Oxford Street today and they had the Sony guys in, setting up this year's models. Chatted to one of them and he said that DSG (Currys) and John Lewis would be the first two retailers to receive stock this coming Wednesday. Said that other retailers should get them in the coming weeks (along with Sony online) as they're prioritising their biggest customers (JL & DSG) with initial stock.Review wise, Google for 'XBR-65X850C' - name of the same model in the US.
Biggest frustration I have is the price jumps, though I guess that's just supply/demand.
Samsung 65" JS9500 (latest curved) is circa £3000.
78" jumps up to £10k.
88" is an eye watering £20k.
I get that there's probably issues of yield with the larger TVs, but it's not like you're guaranteed zero dead pixels or even uniform backlight. Had 3 Samsung 65"s - first had a bezel flaw, second had terrible backlight bleed and I blagged a return somehow, third was the better of the three but developed a dead pixel after some time. When you're paying the sort of money these things cost it's remarkable how flaws are considered par for the course.
Then there is the issue of obsolescence - is 4K mature as a standard? Is a new iteration of HDMI around the corner? How long will any of these TVs "last" ?
Samsung 65" JS9500 (latest curved) is circa £3000.
78" jumps up to £10k.
88" is an eye watering £20k.
I get that there's probably issues of yield with the larger TVs, but it's not like you're guaranteed zero dead pixels or even uniform backlight. Had 3 Samsung 65"s - first had a bezel flaw, second had terrible backlight bleed and I blagged a return somehow, third was the better of the three but developed a dead pixel after some time. When you're paying the sort of money these things cost it's remarkable how flaws are considered par for the course.
Then there is the issue of obsolescence - is 4K mature as a standard? Is a new iteration of HDMI around the corner? How long will any of these TVs "last" ?
I got the 2015 Sony Bravia 65" 1080p w85 the other night, I swithered over the 4k equivilant but never bothered in the end.
Summary: they all look crap on normal broadcast splitters in the shop, the 4k set blu Ray upscaling was awful, that and the lack of content meant I went for the cheaper version. It was about £1100 more which to future proof just wasn't worth it for me just now.
4k has to be a step change in content, Netflix where my broadband isn't quick enough and YouTube demos don't make it viable at the moment, but I think I will got for a 4k oled in 3/4 years when the technology matures and the costs drop
Summary: they all look crap on normal broadcast splitters in the shop, the 4k set blu Ray upscaling was awful, that and the lack of content meant I went for the cheaper version. It was about £1100 more which to future proof just wasn't worth it for me just now.
4k has to be a step change in content, Netflix where my broadband isn't quick enough and YouTube demos don't make it viable at the moment, but I think I will got for a 4k oled in 3/4 years when the technology matures and the costs drop
Edited by foz01 on Saturday 6th June 15:37
I got the 2015 Sony Bravia 65" 1080p w85 the other night, I swithered over the 4k equivilant but never bothered in the end.
Summary: they all look crap on normal broadcast splitters in the shop, the 4k set blu Ray upscaling was awful, that and the lack of content meant I went for the cheaper version. It was about £1100 more which to future proof just wasn't worth it for me just now.
4k has to be a step change in content, Netflix where my broadband isn't quick enough and YouTube demos don't make it viable at the moment, but I think I will got for a 4k oled in 3/4 years when the technology matures and the costs drop
Summary: they all look crap on normal broadcast splitters in the shop, the 4k set blu Ray upscaling was awful, that and the lack of content meant I went for the cheaper version. It was about £1100 more which to future proof just wasn't worth it for me just now.
4k has to be a step change in content, Netflix where my broadband isn't quick enough and YouTube demos don't make it viable at the moment, but I think I will got for a 4k oled in 3/4 years when the technology matures and the costs drop
Edited by foz01 on Monday 8th June 06:59
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