Monitor audio ceiling speakers with Sonos connect

Monitor audio ceiling speakers with Sonos connect

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J4ymo1

Original Poster:

22 posts

105 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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I was thinking of getting two single stereo speakers - Monitor Audio ct165 t2's - the plan being to have one in the ensuite and one in the study.

As these speakers are 6ohm can I run two sets from a Sonos connect amp? Confused by various conflicting information on the net!

Cheers

fadeaway

1,463 posts

226 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Interested as I'm planning on doing exactly the same.

I've got 2 ct165 t2s, one for and en-suite and one for GA,ily bathroom. Now trying to decide if I need a simple speaker switch or an amp to run them from one Sonos connect amp

J4ymo1

Original Poster:

22 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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I've seen these speakers recommended on here so hopefully someone will be able to guide us!

paralla

3,535 posts

135 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Each speaker is 6 ohms so if you run 4 speakers you will present 3 ohms to the Connect Amp which is only rated as 4 ohm minimum load impedance.

It will work at low volumes but if you turn it up the amp may go into thermal protect mode and shut down because it's being forced to deliver more current than its designed to. You may also shorten the life of the Amp. Having said that you are probably not going to be listening at loud volumes in the ensuite.

Also both rooms wil obviously be the same zone so will have to play the same music.

Connect Amp powered ceeling speakers are great but the costs quickly add up if you have an amp for each room.

ASK1974

254 posts

132 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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As above...

The connect amp is happy with a 4ohm load so you could connect two pairs of 8ohm speakers, problem is the MA speakers are 6ohm, so the resulting impedance if connected in parallel is 3ohm; not a good idea. Better to buy a Connect and seperate power amp stable down to 2ohms, or you should just buy two Connect Amps, one for each zone so you have a proper multi-room setup with independent operation.

If budget is tight and you want to use the one amp then make sure you purchase 8ohm speakers.

J4ymo1

Original Poster:

22 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Thanks guys

Think it might more sense / easier to look towards another speaker instead of the MOnitor audio's

Edited by J4ymo1 on Sunday 26th July 15:20

J4ymo1

Original Poster:

22 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Thanks guys

Think it might more sense / easier to look towards another speaker instead of the MOnitor audio's

Edited by J4ymo1 on Sunday 26th July 15:20

MrSparks

648 posts

120 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Q Acoustics are good and well priced.

http://kitchenbathroomradio.co.uk/speakers/in-ceil...

J4ymo1

Original Poster:

22 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Is wiring in series a definite no for the sonos amp?

Looks like Fadeaway already has his speakers so assume if it is an option he could go that way?

MrSparks

648 posts

120 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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J4ymo1 said:
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Is wiring in series a definite no for the sonos amp?

Looks like Fadeaway already has his speakers so assume if it is an option he could go that way?
The Sonos could accept that, 4 x 3 ohm speakers in series = 12 ohm and that is within the Sonos amps ratings, but it might result in poor sound quality. As mentioned before the 6ohm speakers may cause problems with the Sonos so you'd need to use 8 ohm speakers in parallel or a speaker switch. http://kitchenbathroomradio.co.uk/multi-room-audio... with built in protection which means the amp will see 4ohms.

So are you looking to create one sonos zone but with the ability to listen to it in both rooms? As also mentioned before you'll have both areas on at the same time, if you use a switch like the above one you can turn off an area when it's not needed. Or if you're using 8ohm speakers in parallel you could install one of these in the wall to choose where you're listening to music... http://kitchenbathroomradio.co.uk/multi-room-audio...

paralla

3,535 posts

135 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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I have a Sonos zone in every room of the house and on the roof terrace.

When I installed the terrace speakers I put a simple speaker switch in the airing cupboard that houses the Connect Amp for the celling speakers in the kitchen. My thought was that I wouldn't require the kitchen speakers to be in use at the same time as the terrace speakers so they could share a single Connect Amp, and save some money. In practice it turned out to me a massive PITA and the other half never stopped moaning about it.

The real beauty of a whole house Sonos set up is the convenience and when you start adding manual switches you take some of that away. The big daddy Denon 5.1 Amp connected with a Sonnos Connect in the front room rarely gets used to listen to music because you either have to switch it on manually (like an animal) or go to another App on your phone or iPad to turn it on. This seemingly simple extra step is enough to discourage its use.

Bite the bullet, get a Connect Amp for every zone. Or buy a much cheaper Play 1 for the study. Celling speakers are great for bathrooms and kitchens but Zone players are much cheaper where there is space for them. A stereo pair of Play 1's sounds better than a Sonos Connect Amp and a pair of Monitor Audio CP-CT260's at far lower cost.

Edited by paralla on Monday 27th July 08:33

aberdeeneuan

1,344 posts

178 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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I have a 165-t2 and a 185-t2, through don't run a pair from a single amp. They're good speakers, use them in the kitchen (185) and the bathroom, have absolutely no complaints about them in that configuration.

I looked at the Bowers and Wilkins speaker, it did sound better but not enough for the difference to be warranted, especially as there is background noise when they are in use (cooking, shower etc).


VEX

5,256 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I use the MA range quite a lot on my budget installs and they sound great. Using the standard CT165 as two on a channel work fine.

Honestly not tried the CT165T2's as a pair but I don't see any problem with it.

V