4K BluRay: Which film will you buy first?
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scovette said:
Blurays should be, and normally are, remastered for sound with a nearfield mix. Sometimes low-budget releases just futz with the compression. If anything was released a straight copy of the cinema mix it would be unlistenable.
How so? (genuine question) I know cinema's are set to a reference level of 105db, is that why? At home volumes (mine peaks at 85ish db) you wouldn't be able to hear what people are saying, too much dynamic range in a cinema mix?
ETA: Just reading up on this, interesting...
Edited by varsas on Friday 31st July 12:33
It shouldn't be to do with the level, since there are plenty of home cinema systems (mine included) that have been designed to be able to hit reference level, including to below 20Hz at the MLP. Not that I listen at this level (except for short demos perhaps), but it allows plenty of headroom listening at maybe -8/10dB below reference as I tend to do.
What is more likely the issue is that a mix for a large room may sound too bright in a smaller room. Even so, many AVR/AVP have a function like 're-eq' or even a THX mode that rolls off the top end, so it's not the end of the world if you have this function. Just remember it is on if you play a properly mixed disc (or music) as it tends to make it then sound too dull.
What is more likely the issue is that a mix for a large room may sound too bright in a smaller room. Even so, many AVR/AVP have a function like 're-eq' or even a THX mode that rolls off the top end, so it's not the end of the world if you have this function. Just remember it is on if you play a properly mixed disc (or music) as it tends to make it then sound too dull.
OldSkoolRS said:
What is more likely the issue is that a mix for a large room may sound too bright in a smaller room.
Yes, ear-piercingly bright. Got pics somewhere of Sony's studios in Culver City. The home mix was done in the same large theatre - instead of using the theatre speakers there were Genelecs rigged up 10-15 feet around the mixer. The reasoning for using the same room was that it reduced/eliminated reflections when listening to the nearfield setup.
Mmmmmm Genelecs...as much as I love my MK 150 series I hear great things about Genelecs, love to try them one day, but perhaps I'd better not as I've got enough upgrades planed for next year as it is (Atmos/DTS:X AV processor, extra MK speakers for the ceiling and another pair of 15" subs). 
Thought it was the treble issue with the large room mix. Some cinema AVRs are bright enough as it is (my old Onkyo 818 was ear piercingly bright/harsh especially at higher levels). My Dirac room eq processor allows me to set different target curves, so I have one set with a treble roll off for those discs that set my teeth on edge, though that is a fairly rare occurance as the overall sound is much smoother than the old Onkyo set up.
Thought it was the treble issue with the large room mix. Some cinema AVRs are bright enough as it is (my old Onkyo 818 was ear piercingly bright/harsh especially at higher levels). My Dirac room eq processor allows me to set different target curves, so I have one set with a treble roll off for those discs that set my teeth on edge, though that is a fairly rare occurance as the overall sound is much smoother than the old Onkyo set up.
We have Genelecs for monitoring at work (various active models), and a friend has some (again, active) for a 5.0 setup. They do sound great. A few times I've found myself in a studio enjoying music I didn't even think I liked, now that's a good speaker!
ETA: For the avoidance of doubt, no I'm not an audio/sound engineer. Just in case you couldn't tell already.
ETA: For the avoidance of doubt, no I'm not an audio/sound engineer. Just in case you couldn't tell already.
Edited by varsas on Saturday 1st August 11:46
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