In-laws insist on watching everything in SD?

In-laws insist on watching everything in SD?

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TEKNOPUG

18,950 posts

205 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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zarjaz1991 said:
No idea about other platforms but in Virgin Media BBC One HD doesn't carry the local news opt-outs. So I always have news, BBC Breakfast etc on SD for that reason.
That's the same across all formats.

If I watch via my TV's inbuilt Freeview/Freesat HD tuners, when you select an SD channel, the U/I will prompt you that there is an HD version available and would I like to watch that one instead? Somehow though, the combined might of SKY & Virgin have found this technology far too advanced to master and instead I first need to filter all the channels by "HD" and then BBC2 is the first option, with BBC1 a further 4 pages of scrolling away....

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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toon10 said:
...why I upgrade headphones, Hi-Fi, etc as the "standard" stuff is fine.

No, no it isn't.
I can't tell the difference between "upgraded" audio either. paperbag

HD vs SD however...

AC43

11,486 posts

208 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I often find my OH watching The One Show, Strictly, the Voice, etc in SD and it drives me nuts. Even on the smaller 32 inch TV it looks absolutely sh*t but she can't understand why I get so irritated and refuse to watch it. It's like watching something on an old VCR.

On the other I didn't tell her that I'd replaced a Bluetooth dongle with a Chromecase on my audio setup the other day and when I stuck some tunes on she immediately went "that sounds great - have you changed something?".

No, don't understand it either.

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I still keep a VCR and prefer to watch films 'of that vintage' on VHS.

80's action/scifi movies especially look st in HD/BR as you can see all the bad effects and sets more clearly. I watched Predator 2 and the grainy tape masks a multitude of sins and makes the nighttime alleyways ten times more atmospheric.

Most appropriate medium for the job, IMO.

page3

4,920 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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I don't see the point of having parallel HD and SD channels. It's just more to scroll through. Hence, I remove any SD channels that have an HD equivalent.

In the "good old days" when manufacturers cared about television, you could also re-order and re-number the channels.

m1dg3

128 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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budgie smuggler said:
HTP99 said:
Every so often I will go through the Virgin planner and re-set all the planned recordings from SD to HD.
I do the opposite, so that all the crap she records takes up less space.
On Freeview the HD channels are compressed with MPEG4 and SD with MPEG2 so they actually take up almost exactly the same amount of space.

Admittedly that probably isn't the case with Virgin Media as they supply the box so don't need backwards compatibility.

OldSkoolRS

6,749 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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page3 said:
I don't see the point of having parallel HD and SD channels. It's just more to scroll through. Hence, I remove any SD channels that have an HD equivalent.

In the "good old days" when manufacturers cared about television, you could also re-order and re-number the channels.
I've got a mixture of Sony and Panasonic TVs but they all allow to reorder the channels. The issue is that with the Panasonic I had to create a 'Favourites' list, but I just leave it on that and set the TV so it uses the Favourites by default when switching on. That way I have the various HD channels in the usual 'slot' ie ITV HD on 003, Channel 4 HD on 004, etc.

I still put BBC One London (SD) one channel below BBC One HD though because I like to watch the local news, so we've all learnt to go down one channel to put it on. Sometimes it gets left on the SD channel though, but if I'm on my laptop an therefore wearing reading glasses, then I can't see the difference. smile I soon change it back if I switch my laptop off and change glasses though.

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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page3 said:
I don't see the point of having parallel HD and SD channels. It's just more to scroll through. Hence, I remove any SD channels that have an HD equivalent.

In the "good old days" when manufacturers cared about television, you could also re-order and re-number the channels.
In my "good old days" there was no need to renumber as there was only a limited number of channels, BBC(1), then ITV followed by BBC2, Channel 4 appeared in the early'80s followed by Channel 5 in the late 90s. Until 2008 that is what most people had, so it was BBC1 (1), BBC2 (2), ITV(3), C4 (4) and C5(5).


page3

4,920 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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FlossyThePig said:
In my "good old days" there was no need to renumber as there was only a limited number of channels, BBC(1), then ITV followed by BBC2, Channel 4 appeared in the early'80s followed by Channel 5 in the late 90s. Until 2008 that is what most people had, so it was BBC1 (1), BBC2 (2), ITV(3), C4 (4) and C5(5).
True, more on then too smile

I then had 10 years of TiVo, which you never knew (or cared) about channels, only programmes. Bliss.

Unfortunatly I'm now on freeview which has a UI from the '70's.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Pints said:
I can't tell the difference between "upgraded" audio either. paperbag

HD vs SD however...
Apparently the sounds is better on HD too. Well it depends if you are listening to the DD sound or not. Not as good as NICAM was though.

budgie smuggler

5,384 posts

159 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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m1dg3 said:
On Freeview the HD channels are compressed with MPEG4 and SD with MPEG2 so they actually take up almost exactly the same amount of space.

Admittedly that probably isn't the case with Virgin Media as they supply the box so don't need backwards compatibility.
It's Freesat HD, though I must admit I haven't actually checked they take up less space.

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Rostfritt said:
Pints said:
I can't tell the difference between "upgraded" audio either. paperbag

HD vs SD however...
Apparently the sounds is better on HD too. Well it depends if you are listening to the DD sound or not. Not as good as NICAM was though.
If I put the surround sound system on (one button to turn it on, but the TV volume down has to be turned down) my missus gets huffy with me and accuses me of messing about. I think makes films about a million times better, but she doesn't get it all.

toon10

6,183 posts

157 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
If I put the surround sound system on (one button to turn it on, but the TV volume down has to be turned down) my missus gets huffy with me and accuses me of messing about. I think makes films about a million times better, but she doesn't get it all.
I put a movie on this weekend from my iPad through Apple TV and then set the sound to come from my Zeppelin. A few minutes clart on and the other half said similar to me. The end result was a much more dynamic experience but she just didn't get it.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I love this thread, as I thought I was being OTT when I get home and my dad is not watching HD. It isn't normally a problem for football as 402 for Sky sports 1 is in HD anyway, but last season when UCL was still on ITV once a week, I'd get home and he would have it on 103 (instead of 178) and I'd switch it over immediately and he'd claim he can't tell the difference. I do not get how you can't tell the difference. In SD I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Drogba or David Beckham!!

I personally cannot watch the TV unless it's in HD. Even the news. If I miss a show in Hd and get home for the plus 1 but that is only available in SD I'll just watch something else.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
If I put the surround sound system on (one button to turn it on, but the TV volume down has to be turned down) my missus gets huffy with me and accuses me of messing about. I think makes films about a million times better, but she doesn't get it all.
"It's too loud."

Do you keep finding your subwoofer switched off?

DonkeyApple

55,272 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I didn't know there were normal HD channels. I can't say I could now be bothered to go and find them. I'm not exactly old but I'm not sure it would add anything to my life.

Janluke

2,584 posts

158 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Must admit I don't bother much with the HD channels. I do notice the difference if I flick between SD/HD but only for the first few minutes(I know that doesnt make sense)

ATG

20,575 posts

272 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Newsflash: irrespective of your viewing resolution, Strictly and The One Show are st.

DonkeyApple

55,272 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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ATG said:
Newsflash: irrespective of your viewing resolution, Strictly and The One Show are st.
I'd counter that SD would surely be superior. Why eould you want to see those people in any more detail that is required!!!

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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ATG said:
Newsflash: irrespective of your viewing resolution, Strictly and The One Show are st.
... and TG with the three wise monkeys was past its Prime...