I am in LOVE..........

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IATM

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3,794 posts

147 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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gizlaroc said:
One is simply one of the best screens ever made, the other is.....bigger?
I wonder if samsung will divert to OLED at some point. With the reading I have done they cant really overcome the limitations of LCD/LED hardware or maybe they can but with massive R&D which would be counter productive.


Cblair246

200 posts

122 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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gizlaroc said:
One is simply one of the best screens ever made, the other is.....bigger?
If I'm 2-2.5 m away will I get the full benefit of the OLED screen or is it better to go for the Samsung 65" screen? I can't afford the OLED in 65" frown

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Cblair246 said:
If I'm 2-2.5 m away will I get the full benefit of the OLED screen or is it better to go for the Samsung 65" screen? I can't afford the OLED in 65" frown
OLED will be a benefit whatever distance, it is not about the resolution. Resolution is a bonus as you get bigger, but really it is the last thing to worry about.


Cblair246

200 posts

122 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Cblair246 said:
If I'm 2-2.5 m away will I get the full benefit of the OLED screen or is it better to go for the Samsung 65" screen? I can't afford the OLED in 65" frown
OLED will be a benefit whatever distance, it is not about the resolution. Resolution is a bonus as you get bigger, but really it is the last thing to worry about.
Thanks for the info, looks like LG OLED is the one to go for then!



gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Go and have a look at them in store.

Not being funny, but a TV is probably the thing you spend more time with in your life, and even if you swap every 3 years or so you want it to be right.

I think you will be blown away by OLED, but try and see a store where they are set up in low lighting so you can really see the differences.


If you sit directly in front of LCD some can be OK, but even sitting at the end of the sofa can make them look crap.


I am waiting for the new gen LGs to arrive next month before I bite. I have lived with the top end Sony now for the last couple of years since selling my Pioneer Kuro, and it is fine, but no where near a plasma or OLED.

Cblair246

200 posts

122 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Go and have a look at them in store.

Not being funny, but a TV is probably the thing you spend more time with in your life, and even if you swap every 3 years or so you want it to be right.

I think you will be blown away by OLED, but try and see a store where they are set up in low lighting so you can really see the differences.


If you sit directly in front of LCD some can be OK, but even sitting at the end of the sofa can make them look crap.


I am waiting for the new gen LGs to arrive next month before I bite. I have lived with the top end Sony now for the last couple of years since selling my Pioneer Kuro, and it is fine, but no where near a plasma or OLED.
Any info on when the next gen LG's will be out? Any info so far?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

krarkol

109 posts

110 months

Tuesday 5th April 2016
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Can someone explain what the point of a curved TV is?

Like most just seem to be positioned like a normal TV would.
I'd expect it would have more of a curve and you'd be positioned so the curve goes into your peripheral vision, thus making you feel "there" ?

If I'm correct in the way of the positioning, what is the point of the small ones as you'd literally have to have the screen inches off your face to get any benefit.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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I think it all comes down to personal choice.

I never rated the curved screen until I spent some time in JL who had a flat and curve model of the same tv on top of each other.

For me, the curve provides a more immersive picture. I'd still happily have a flat screen but feel the curve just adds a better viewing experience for me.

With regards to the oled v led argument - I think it will be interesting to see how LG manager to get to 1000 nits for Ultra HD Premium certification. Oled struggles with brightness.

The reviews I've seen on the Samsung K9000 seem to say it's a game changer. It supposedly has deep blacks now which has always been the issue.

Interesting and exciting times if you are in the market for a new to as I am.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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Speaking to people who have seen both and calibrated both they say the K9000 is no where near teh image quality of the OLEDs, it is excellent for an LCD, not Panasonic good, but the best Samsung yet, but OLED is still on another level.
But it is much cheaper.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Speaking to people who have seen both and calibrated both they say the K9000 is no where near teh image quality of the OLEDs, it is excellent for an LCD, not Panasonic good, but the best Samsung yet, but OLED is still on another level.
But it is much cheaper.
What is the LG equivalent to the K9000 (and K8000 for flat)? I'm keen to understand the prices for the OLED models.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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£4000.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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gizlaroc said:
£4000.
55 or 65"?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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65" is £3999 for the 4k.

The newer models that are due any minute may be more or less, probably both as there are 3 different levels of spec now.


Boozy

2,340 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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I have the JS8500 65 inch and for me the picture quality is superb for the price, well worth buying although I'm not sure what that equates to in the UK.

varsas

4,013 posts

202 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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garyhun said:
With regards to the oled v led argument - I think it will be interesting to see how LG manager to get to 1000 nits for Ultra HD Premium certification. Oled struggles with brightness.
Only 540 nits is required for UHD premium if the TV can display very good blacks (as OLED's do), but even then only on a small window of the screen. LED's struggle for brightness too, they don't get anywhere near the 4,000 or 10,000 nits of brightness HDR material is authored for, it's just they struggle a bit less than OLED's. It's not like 1,000nits is a magic number for perfect brightness. For what it's worth my OLED goes very, very bright. It's easily capable of dazzling me, 1,000nits would give me sunburn!

What seems odd to me is that the K9000 has UHD premium certification without, apparently, being able to fullfill the requirments. Yes it can go to 1,000 nits brightness (although, again, not across the whole screen), but the mimimum is only 0.039, where the certifaction calls for 0.03 or less yet the TV still has the sticker. I guess the UHD alliance are taking measurments in an odd way...



Edited by varsas on Wednesday 6th April 13:40

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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I agree, this 1000 nits for HDR is a nonsense imho, an OLED will go plenty bright enough.
Ansi contrast is what really matter to an image, an LCD needs to go incredibly bright as they can't do black properly.

As soon as Samsung, Sony etc. have OLED displays their reference displays will no longer be LCD based, that is a guarantee.

varsas

4,013 posts

202 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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gizlaroc said:
I agree, this 1000 nits for HDR is a nonsense imho, an OLED will go plenty bright enough.
Ansi contrast is what really matter to an image, an LCD needs to go incredibly bright as they can't do black properly.

As soon as Samsung, Sony etc. have OLED displays their reference displays will no longer be LCD based, that is a guarantee.
Actually Sony's reference displays already are, their 'trimaster' range of studio monitors are all OLED. (Sorry, I know that's not what you meant but couldn't resist...)

varsas

4,013 posts

202 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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Cblair246 said:
Any info on when the next gen LG's will be out? Any info so far?
See here...


http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/oled-sweep-20160406...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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I really need to see a good demo of an LG OLED tv.

When I was in JL the Samsung looked superior which, according to people on here and online tests, should not be the case.